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EU Horizon 2020 Marie Curie Program Individual Fellowships (IF) Tips

Updated on December 15, 2016

Fellowship Overview

So, you want to get money from the European Commission (EU) by applying for one of the Marie Curie schemes, but you need expert advice. I have been working as an independent expert evaluating these schemes for over 10 years, so I should be able to help you. You can also use the comments section below to get help from your peers.

All three schemes (IEF, IOF, IIF) have similar criteria, which are given at the end of this article along with my explanations as to what you have to write in order to meet these criteria. I also explain some of the important, mostly misunderstood, sub-criteria to help you understand exactly what the Commission wants. In addition, I have included a table for scores at the end of the text, submitted by unverified users so people will have an idea on approximate scores.

But first, what's different about the three schemes is their objectives. If you want to write a successful proposal, you have to write it according to these objectives, and modify it to fit these objectives exactly.

Objective of the Three Schemes

IEF: The objectives of the IEF scheme aim for these Fellowships to allow the most promising researchers from EU and Associated Countries to undertake training through research in the European organizations most appropriate to their individual needs. The researchers may freely choose the topic in collaboration with the host, with a view to completing or diversifying his/her expertise. The IEF action is aimed at experienced researchers and hopes to respond to their particular needs. Its intention is to help researchers add different/complementary scientific competencies in the process of reaching and/or reinforcing a position of professional maturity and independence (e.g. advanced training in multi-disciplinary fields, advanced training related to an interdisciplinary transfer, intersectoral experiences at senior level), or to permit them to resume their career.

This means that if the researcher was pregnant, or had to leave science for a career in industry, but wants to come back to science, that's a priority researcher according to the objectives. The action permits the researchers to undertake transnational mobility in the European organisations most appropriate to their individual needs, directed towards competence diversification, without providing merely a subsequent step to continue their work in the same research field. In other words, the proposed project should be something that diversifies the career of the researcher.

IOF: The IOF scheme Fellowships are awarded to researchers from EU and Associated Countries to work in established third country research centers, thereby widening their international experience in research. This scheme requires the submission of a coherent individual training program, involving a first phase abroad, followed by a mandatory second phase in Europe. This action, open towards the rest of the world, aims to respond to the need for reinforcing the international dimension of the careers of European researchers by giving them the opportunity to be trained and acquire new knowledge in a world level third country research organization, and then to apply the experience gained in an organization in a Member State or Associated States.

IIF: And finally, the IIF scheme Fellowships aim to attract top-class researchers from third countries to work and undertake research training in Europe, with the view to developing mutually-beneficial research co-operation between Europe and third countries. In the case of emerging and transition economies and developing countries, the scheme may include provisions to assist fellows to return to their country of origin. This action reinforces the scientific excellence of the Member States and the Associated States thanks to the application of the knowledge thus transferred during this period of mobility. Additionally, this will also constitute a springboard for the future development of relations between the Member States or Associated States and the third countries.

All of the schemes have to be relevant to one or more of the specific objectives of the action. Potential for acquiring competencies during the fellowship to improve the prospects of reaching and/or reinforcing a position of professional maturity, diversity and independence, in particular through exposure to complementary skills training is important. The proposal should emphasize contribution to career development or re-establishment where relevant.

For international fellowships, potential for creating long term collaborations and mutually beneficial co-operation between Europe and the third country should be emphasized.
For incoming fellowships, contribution to the socio-economic development of the Developing Countries or emerging and transition economies by transfer of knowledge and human capacity building (where appropriate) should be written in detail. The extent to which the research contributes to the objectives of the European Research Area or other European policy objectives are very important as this section makes up a high percentage of the total score.

Below are the criteria I mentioned at the top of the article.

Criteria Weighting Threshold

In all the criteria, telling a story will help you succeed. Stating facts can easily be accomplished by using tables. One other thing is that you need to answer these sub-criteria with project specific answers, as opposed to using generic sentences.

1. Scientific Quality of the Project 25% (Threshold 3)

In this criterion, it is important to mention interdisciplinary and multidisciplinary aspects of the proposal and emphasize how it is multidisciplinary with convincing arguments. The proposer should explain why the proposed research is timely, in other words, why it must be done now. This section needs to explain how the host has sufficient scientific expertise in this specific field and should prove that the host is very high quality. This can be done by mentioning publications, patents etc. Publications in journals like Science and Nature are major boosts. This section has a high percentage of the weighted score, so it is important to spend a good amount of time and attention on it.

2. Quality of Research Training 15% (Threshold 3)

This section should convince the expert reviewer that the fellow knows what he is going to learn, and is aware of the learning objectives. Complementary skills must be mentioned here. These are things like grant writing, paper writing, presentation skills, etc. You have to show that the host scientists have plenty of experience in training graduate students, including post docs. Percentage of this section is low, but a score lower than the threshold will fail your proposal, so be sure to address all the sub-criteria here carefully.

3. Quality of the Researcher 25% (Threshold 4)

The fellow must convince the experts that he/she has sufficient experience in the subject. This can be accomplished by mentioning his/her accomplishments up to this point in his/her career. This is followed by the most important sub-criterion in this section: research results including publications, teaching, and patents. I am not going to sugarcoat it, it is a major boost to your proposal if you have a high number of publications in high quality journals. This depends on your level of experience, so if you have been in science for 10 years, then you must have more publications compared to someone who has been in science for two years. This is quite important and may increase or decrease your points.

You have to write something specific about yourself that indicates that you have independent thinking and leadership qualities. This can be accomplished by telling a story on how you did something by yourself, or how you lead students or some other group. In short, anything that will convince the experts that you have independent thinking and leadership qualities will do.

Additionally, your profile needs to match the project, but this does not mean that you should do the exact same thing as your masters or Ph.D. You need to diversify your subject, yet it should fit your profile. If the project is a subsequent step in your career, that's bad.

The project should provide you with the potential to reach a position of professional maturity. In other words, if you are one step away from professional maturity and this project will provide you with that ability, that's great. This could be by providing you with something that will complement your knowledge so that you will gain independence, for example. You also have to write something regarding your potential to acquire new knowledge, to illustrate that you will learn and gain new knowledge by completing this project.

4. Implementation 15%

This section has to illustrate the host's infrastructure and international collaborations. You have to write how you can accomplish the proposed research using the host's facilities and if they are enough. It is usually a bad idea to write that you will do only part of the research with the host and will have to go somewhere else to perform some other part of the research.

Also consider these questions in this section:

  • What will the host do to make you feel at home?
  • Will you have visa or other legal problems or will they take care of that?
  • What are other practical arrangements?

Important Note: You must include a GANTT Chart here. This is a very important step that a lot of people leave out in their work plan.

5. Impact 20%

This section used to have the highest percentage in earlier years, and it is still high with 20 percent. You must also include complementary skills here in addition to the training section. You have to illustrate your potential for reaching a position of professional maturity, diversity, and independence. How will you be trained in complementary skills, and how will it help you in professional maturity and independence?

Writing about contribution to career development is required and it is very important, as I mentioned at the top of the article. If you left science and want to come back, the European Commission wants you back! This aspect should increase your chances significantly. If this project will make a significant contribution to your career, that's great also.

Contribution to European excellence and European competitiveness must be convincingly illustrated and must be specific to your project. In other words, don't fill it out with generic sentences.

2010 Scores As Submitted By Unverified Users

(click column header to sort results)
Call  
Panel  
List  
Nick  
Score  
IEF
ENV
B
REALIST
88.6
IEF
ENV
B
Nano
88.8
IEF
ENV
B (9th)
JW
88.5
IEF
ENV
C
LEO
85.0
IEF
ENV
B
R1
88.2
IEF
ENV
B (cutoff)
Granada
88.9
IOF
ENV
B
C
90.9
IEF
ENV
C
Hilly Billy
88.0
IEF
SOC
B
ra
89.2
IEF
SOC
B
Rob
89.90
IEF
SOC
B
Tom
89.2
IEF
SOC
B
nara
88.9
IEF
SOC
B
fingerscrossed
89.90
IEF
SOC
B
afg
89.40
IEF
SOC
B
ozon
88.80
IEF
SOC
B
Trowel
88.50
IEF
LIFE
B (41st/46)
MD
87.7
IIF
PHY
B
Roman-br
88.5
IIF
CHE
B
sansun
90.5
IOF
LIFE
B
MelenudoPorElMundo
88.40
IOF
CHE
B
RobbieG
91.1
This information is submitted by unverified users and it is intended to give an idea of the list of 2010 only, and cannot be used for legal purposes.

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      Godot 8 days ago

      It seemed much more transparent under the old "people" scheme. I agree with it being soul destroying. Waiting with no idea where in the process your application might be is not good for your mental health, especially in today's research environment.

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      Just waiting 10 days ago

      Not yet. REA must have concluded grant agreements with proposals retained for funding. More than three months passed since the announcement of results. MarieCurie Facebook page also declared that REA would tap into the reserve list in May. Waiting is a soul destroying process, and there is no update.

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      Godot 11 days ago

      Anyone heard anything on reserve list?

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      Mark 5 weeks ago

      Anybody from the reserve list, chemistry panel? any news?

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      MC-reserve 6 weeks ago

      Has anybody from the reserve list already been contacted? So far I think there are no news on the Seal of Excellence.

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      AlmostThere 6 weeks ago

      Any news on the seal of Excellence?

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      LazyAnna 3 months ago

      I am going to apply this year, and by reading those comments I figured I am in for a lot of work. Then again, probably it's a good thing I started looking already now. Any advice is appreciated. PS. I tried looking up the other forum suggested, and it doesn't work.

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      .... 3 months ago

      95.2, LIF, got it

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      Shape33 3 months ago

      I am on reserve list (ST CHE) with a mark of 90.8. From the very limited information that that I can find, I think my chances are extremely low.

      The NCP did not give me any information because it is confidential they said.

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      SK 3 months ago

      Is there any information on when the Seals of Excellence will be sent ?

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      Damian 3 months ago

      For the 2015 call a total of 50 proposals were on the GF reserve list. It seems that 3 of these projects were funded (I guess because funding became available).

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      Damian 3 months ago

      For those on the reserve list, you can contact your national contact point, and find out how many are on your list and where you are placed. For example, for the GF-ENG proposals, 16 proposal are on the main list, and 5 proposals are on the reserve list.

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      renakre 3 months ago

      EF-ENG 91 IN RESERVE LIST

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      DC 4 months ago

      93 SOC got it (vs 91.4 on the reserve list last year)

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      AS 4 months ago

      Is there any information on when the Seals of Excellence will be sent around? Thank you

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      fish 4 months ago

      91.9 LIF reserve list :(

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      Mercatio 4 months ago

      92% LIF reserve list ... :(

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      4 months ago

      93% GF SOC - didn't get it.

      The weaknesses I got were so vague I don't see how they can even be addressed.

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      Damian 4 months ago

      93.6 GF-ENG on the reserve list.

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      Wotuer 4 months ago

      91.4% LIF reserve list... People who got it, what was your score?

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      ad 4 months ago

      91.6 ENG reserve list.

      Can anyone refer to a website to check for cutoff thresholds for funding?

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      francif 4 months ago

      still nothing in the personal page.... :-( just the proposal

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      pgl 4 months ago

      Prakash, Is it too much to ask that you send the proposal private? That way you learn!

      Thanks

      (lustemberg@gmail.com)

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      Env-gf 4 months ago

      92 reserve list-gf

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      Prakash 4 months ago

      I scored 94.2 IIF_Chemistry

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      Prakash 4 months ago

      Wow...I got it..Chemistry

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      4 months ago

      The silence before the storm

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      Lala 4 months ago

      Guys! any update?

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      Lala 4 months ago

      Hey guys!

      Come back!!

      We were having so much fun...

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      greg 4 months ago

      In my opinion, contact doesnt mean anything. The only obvious clue is..

      Evaluation = rejected

      Ranking main list =funded

      Reserved = reserved

      This is very obvious since at the beginning.

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      I registered to the new forum and will contribute there from now on. I invite you to do the same. Thank you @MC_IF!

      https://mcforumadmin.discussion.community/post/h20...

      The discussion continues...

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      IF-ENV 4 months ago

      @just a thought

      Very few people saw the details through the "sites"...

      Most of the people don't even see this blog and many others chose not to follow the links...

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      just a thought 4 months ago

      I was wondering, why get into the trouble and hide the details after we have seen them already? Do they have something to hide???

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ IF-ENV

      it is not necessary to have facebook... you just have to register to the forum..

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      IF-ENV 4 months ago

      Not everyone has Facebook..

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      NK-MSCA 4 months ago

      I just saw the conversation! Can you please tell me where exactly I could find that link with the "results"? In my portal I can't see anything. Good luck to everyone.

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      MC_IF 4 months ago

      please register in this forum and continue, we can develop that into an active platform

      https://mcforumadmin.discussion.community/post/h20...

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      research gate is a good idea or linkedin?

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      LordX 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      I'm referring to the new clue is with service maintenance notice in response to @FF

      @ENV-GF-US

      your idea is good, if we decide something I will participe

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      KK 4 months ago

      I think few people here (not just talking about lala) are from MSCA-IT team, who is regularly following this conversation.

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      I do not know. But at least a forum requires a registration and there are moderators. We could also have some sort of private chat and some subtopics where future applicants can find redundant information as well as support from previous fellows. Anyway that is just a suggestion and I have no clue on what type of plateform or forum system would do a better job...

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      IF-ENV 4 months ago

      Maybe through research gate...

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      VI 4 months ago

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      VI 4 months ago

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ ENV-GF-US

      I agree with you but how we will know or undestand which post is fake??

      For example lala!! is it possible to post a person that, according to him/her, he didnt catch the deadline??

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      Dear all,

      This chat isbreally ugly with ads, fake posts by anonymous people not concerned by our topic, and so on.

      Should we consider (maybe not now) moving to another platform, better structured? Any suggestions?

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      Does anyone of you also have issue to access the previous proposals of past years through the "FO" button on the portal? It seems they temporarily restricted access to past MSCAs.

      The maintenance message is on the My Project(s) page. Some were saying they cannot see it because they (think they) are out. Not the case.

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      CAR-ov 4 months ago

      I cannot see any maintenance message. Last RANKING status: "Main list"

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ lordx

      What do you mean with "i see the message"?

      The known link or something else?

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      blame me 4 months ago

      Oh no, I submitted after the deadline...Do you think that's why results are not out yet???

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      MDV 4 months ago

      I think lala should see a psychologist. He is not going forward and I feel some narcissism too. Classical among young people these days. Maybe he could try and get some interested in scientists who believed in god, like Einstein, who also played violin.

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      MdV 4 months ago

      @Francif

      sure you are right, but at the same time at some point one has to commit in some sense. I think standing there forever with one's proposal leads to some sort of narcissic relation, and clearly this is not appropriate.

      that being said i also did upload my application the day before the deadline...

      @lala

      still, three weeks, that's quite a lot !

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      mdv 4 months ago

      @Francif

      sure you are right, but at the same time at some point one has to commit in some sense. I think standing there forever with one's proposal leads to some sort of narcissic relation, and clearly this is not appropriate.

      that being said i also did upload my application the day before the deadline...

      @lala

      still, three weeks, that's quite a lot !

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      IF-ENV 4 months ago

      @lala

      What do you meen?

      You didn't make it to the deadline?

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      KK 4 months ago

      Does that mean, the new clue is with service maintenance notice ?

      those who have it got funded and the rest not ?

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      KK 4 months ago

      I cant see the site maintenance notice under my projects. Did you guys see it ?

      @Gr soc uk ""And now the contacts are gone!!"" , is it not there any more ?

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      Francif 4 months ago

      @lala

      What does it mean???the deadline is the deadline...you can submit until a second before the given time...

      I do not get your point...

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      To conclude 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF-US

      you're right. They are reading as

      a) They hide status

      b) They changed finished to false (if you had true)

      c) Now, they hide contact info

      to conclude: IT team never will get MSCA because they are not excellents, they work according to our posts here!

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      Lala 4 months ago

      Are you guys sure that you really made all the administrative forms properly? Because we have to be very rigorous in this matter. People should always send their forms at least 3 weeks before the deadlines. I don't understant that some people wait for the last moment to do things. It's so important. I'm sad now.

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      LdV 4 months ago

      @jeangeorge

      The wait is crazy! at least I will soon be in the nice mountains to forget all about this stress

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      algae 4 months ago

      ...annnnndd.... the 'informed by feb 14th' has disappeared from my follow up. i have not checked the linked link because it would drive me crazy, but I don't like that they removed the '14 feb'thing, it feels like bad luck :p. anyways. do something nice with your evening, guys! Soon, we will know!

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      oll 4 months ago

      @also waiting

      Life needs hopes to continue, right?

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      4 months ago

      Every time there is a maintenance notification (every other day) people say it's because the results will be released. So don't count on it.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      But it cannot be the way they do it. Possibly they will prepare the grant agreements but not move proposals to projects.

      Is it possible that they just send us the results without having put on the website a notification of when results are expected like they did last year?

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      also waiting 4 months ago

      @oll

      its not the first time they are having maintenance

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      LdV 4 months ago

      @aming

      It's very stressful guys&girls... Let's hope this ends up well for many of us!!

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      oll 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      In their system, funded proposal will be moved from proposal section to project section. I think it will be the reason of the project section will be maintained tomorrow morning 07:45- 08:10.

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      clawsoc 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      The notice appears in the "My Project(s)" page.

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      also waiting 4 months ago

      @oll

      why is that so obvious?

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ oll

      why you say this?? is there any announcement for tomorrow 08:10 (CET) ?

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      EF 4 months ago

      The Participant Portal Grant Management Service will be under maintenance on Wednesday, 25th of January between 07:45 and 08:10 (CET). During this period users may encounter problems in accessing projects.

      We are sorry for any inconvenience this might cause.

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      oll 4 months ago

      Obviously after tomorrow 08:10 (CET) everything will be crystal clear. Funded proposal(s) will move into project(s) section.

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      ENV-IF 4 months ago

      I see a 15 minute maintenance on the portal...

      Could it be the results?

      Waiting is the worst thing in the world...

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      also waiting 4 months ago

      @GF-SOC-DN

      14-th of february is also "very soon" :) As long as they cannot provide an exact date, it seems that this very soon is not really that soon :)))))

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      KG 4 months ago

      You are right @ENV-GF-US

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      clawsoc 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF-US

      I was going to ask whether you guys still see the officers' IDs after the system maintenance. Then I saw your post. Thanks for your answer.

      Yes, waiting for their official results is unbearable! :(

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      Note that they track whether we are still using the links as they append a ticket number to the end of the URL each time we refresh the link.

      This whole mess (created by a very bad programming in the first place) certainly gave the IT team a hard time, which (maybe) will postpone the release of the results. No one knows...

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      ENV-IF 4 months ago

      I see a 15 minute maintenance on the portal...

      Could it be the results?

      Waiting is the worst thing in the world...

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      LIF 4 months ago

      @GF-SOC-DN when where ?

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      oll 4 months ago

      another piece of announcement on "my project(s)" page

      The Participant Portal Grant Management Service will be under maintenance on Wednesday, 25th of January between 07:45 and 08:10 (CET). During this period users may encounter problems in accessing projects.

      We are sorry for any inconvenience this might cause.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      And now the contacts are gone!!

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      Nothing new. They basically just had the IDs hidden. Seems they are reading us here.

      Hello MC IT team! Please release the results asap. This is unbearable! :)

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      stuffx 4 months ago

      @CAR-ov, "Main list" definitely refers to the funded proposals. See last year's blog post from the MSCA about how they will notify applicants:

      http://mariecurieactions.blogspot.de/2016/01/if-20...

      "In the case of main list proposals (=retained for funding)," etc...

      It does say that when they make the announcement, we will have a formal notification in our notification center on the portal.

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      RS 4 months ago

      @C

      if this can help, I'm exactly in the same situation.

      On Monday morning it was "Reserved", without any officer name. Now, still nobody appears.

      I tried to use the id numbers that are shown to search for "interesting" association, but nothing.

      Most likely we are going to rest in a limbo!

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      I have the same as @Gr soc uk and @ENV-GF (all the IDs, but I've not tried to check their names). And we had the same "RANKING: Main list" status yesterday.

      And now we have some updates on the portal! :-/

      The Grant Management services may not be accessible today, 24th of January, between 17:30 and 17:45 (CET) while system maintenance is being performed.

      Submission of proposals will not be impacted.

      We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

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      GF-SOC-DN 4 months ago

      20 min ago they posted in their facebook page this message "The results will be out very soon ;)

      Until then, we at #MSCA wish you the best of luck!"

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      GF SOC 4 months ago

      @LA Ves

      I still have "finished":false

      I also have names of officers, and "phase":"RANKING"

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      PSL (SOC) 4 months ago

      Do you think Brexit could have affected results?. I mean for those which host is in UK.

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      4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk - thanks for details. I followed from the beginning, and agree it smells really good for you.

      I'm "Reserved", and I have "contacts":{"ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]}...

      No officer, no legals, nobody!

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      GF SOC 4 months ago

      @LA Ves

      I still have "finished":false

      I also have names of officers, and "phase":"RANKING"

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      CAR-ov 4 months ago

      On Monday morning I had RANKING: Main list. Now I have all the officers and backups listed as described by ENV-GF (I had them the first day I accessed the system this way)

      I do not think it means anything at all. "RANKING: Main list" can be just a zero value were the final decision has not been entered into the system yet (while "rejected" and "reserved" are much more descriptive and unambiguous values). And since we cannot see the status anymore, everything is just pure guessing.

      Anyway, fingers crossed!

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      Earlier I had EVALUATION: Accepted (above threshold). onMainList: false

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      IF che 4 months ago

      I had ''status: mainlist'' yesterday, now I have the names/user IDs for project officer and financial officer, but no legal officer or backup officers.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @C this is my second attempt but with a different university this time. last year I got 90.4. This is the last time I am applying due to eligibility.

      @PK I still have 14 Feb in the portal.

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      If-Gf 4 months ago

      Called NCP for UK - they say they don't have a date for the release of results.

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      Aa 4 months ago

      It seems some of you have access to results already. I can't see anything yet in the participant portal. Are you checking another site? Thanks.

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      4 months ago

      @ENV-GF and Gr soc uk: is it you first attempt?

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      LA Ves 4 months ago

      Does anybody still see "finished:false"

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF fingers crossed!! I have no idea if this is significant or not, but I hope that it means something! Were your back up officers different then?

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      PK 4 months ago

      Now Date 14 feb 2016 has been removed. Are they updating or started to inform the candidates?

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      You are right.. I did find all of them, even the backup persons. I had to split their Ids. All of them have something to do with IF-GFs. I hope this is a good sign!

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      JAV 4 months ago

      Anyone received any email or anything similar?

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      I managed to find the project officer and indeed he is a project officer responsible for marie curie IF-GFs projects. For the legal and financial I can only see ids (no names), so I cannot search!do you have the same?

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      Has anybody contacted their NCPs to see if they have the results?

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      LU 4 months ago

      Where do you see the status

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF perhaps that is why you have a legal officer? just guessing here. Have you managed to find them on the EU site? I have identified both and their jobs are : project adviser for the one and financial officer -initiation for the other.

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      Imran 4 months ago

      @ Gr soc uk

      @ KK

      I think @fof meant status on the portal using follow up link. He/she did not tried this link https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      @ Gr soc uk

      Yes there are some ethical issues in my proposal.

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      to conclude 4 months ago

      I try to explain better.

      In my opinion, if you saw your status sunday morning and in main.list = true (you are funded)

      If you don't know your status, but you can see the "contacts" {projectOfficer etc...} you could be funded or in reserve list.

      Finally, the rest in think that are out, including me

      Cheers

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @fof does it say status:SUBMISSION or phase:SUBMISSION ?

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      KK 4 months ago

      @fof

      which scheme are you in and in which area (LIF, CHE, SOC etc), that will give us some clue.

      Thanks

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      4 months ago

      @ENV-GF

      I am "Reserved" and don't have it (and never had it), so yes, I think that makes sense that this relates to funded project.

      So sad... I still hope it appears!!

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      fof 4 months ago

      Well, mine still says "status: SUBMISSION", anyone else sees the same? Maybe they don't have all the reviews for everyone yet...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF I have:

      "contacts":{"projectOfficer”:"xxxx","projectOfficerUserId”:"xxxx","poDepartmentId":"31016205","financialOfficerUserId”:”xxxx","ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]}

      I don’t have the backups and I don’t have a legal officer. Do you have ethics issues in your proposal?

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk, this is what I have. (xxxx are names and ids)

      "contacts":{"projectOfficer":"xxxxxxx xxxxx","projectOfficerUserId":"xxxxx","poDepartmentId":"31016207","legalOfficerUserId":"xxxx","financialOfficerUserId":"xxxx","projectOfficerBackupUserId":"xxxxx","legalOfficerBackupUserId":"xxxx","financialOfficerBackupUserId":"xxxxx","ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]},.

      Do you have the same?

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      Markovec 4 months ago

      14 February for sure

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @May be

      I am not primary coordinator, I am the researcher and I have this contact information. Those who saw rejected (low funding) in the previous status, did they have the contact information?

      @PSL(SOC) I don’t think there is any delay in getting out the results. They said 14th of February and from previous years’ practice it seems as though the results should be expected from the 25th of January. What do you mean by codes? Before the EU took down the status in the link, it was clear that these were some kind of results. Perhaps we don’t know how to decode them correctly but there were definitely results of some kind. Otherwise why bother and taking out the status from the link?

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      IF LIF 4 months ago

      Any idea when exactly we'll have the results?

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      May be ... 4 months ago

      It might be because of role assigned to proposal participants, in this case Researcher. If you are "Primary Coordinator" this information will be visible to you otherwise not. Just a guess ...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @CAR @ENV-GF

      I also have userid for financial officer which is his/her name actually just not spellt out. I dont have legal officer though. Do you have ethics issues in your applications?

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      PSL (SOC) 4 months ago

      Some people got them since the very beginning, even in the evaluation phase. Does it mean they were assigned officers before being ranked? Not sure if having the officers name means something. Actually, not sure if this link relates to real results or just codes set default beforehand and now they are just updating it with the final results. That would explain why they delay so much.

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      PK 4 months ago

      any further information on the IF 2016 results. In the account, it is still showing Evaluation 0 %.

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      CAR 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF

      I have the same, full name of project officer and just user ids for the financial and legal officers and the3 back ups.

      Does everyone have this?

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      @GR soc uk

      I had "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING" status: Mainlist, as well as project Officer name and surname in the morning . Status has now disappeared but I can still see "phase":"RANKING" and the name/surname of the project offficer. What about the financial officer? i can see "financialOfficerUserId" but this is an id not a name.. do you have the same?

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      IF-UK 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      Good. that could be a clue that you are in.

      To me "ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[] , i.e. there is no address etc in [], though on my form there were three names....that could be because earlier i had "rejected low funding" before "status" disappeared..

      with something in [] looks a new parameter to look at !

      but i would suggest people not to be too serious about it....

      just enjoy speculations and stay cool !

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      MSCA-IF 4 months ago

      @TK

      In my case "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","coordinatorLEName

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @IF-UK i have a complete list of contacts, with ids and names for project officer and a financial officer from the EU. I have had them since i found out about the link.

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      PT 4 months ago

      What link are you refering to?

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      Mark 4 months ago

      I have no status, only RANKING

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      TK 4 months ago

      it looks like their bug fixing wasn't any success or there is more status update afterwards. I can see the status again,

      submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      it was fine only for few hours and from evening went back like it was in the morning. Anyone else can see the same ?

      I guess i am out.. all the best guys.

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      @stuffx

      Your analysis makes a lot of sense. Thank you!

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      greg 4 months ago

      @stuffx

      Pretty much like that. I agreed with you.

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      Yes how are the results announced? Who is informed first?

      The supervisor?the applicant? or a letter in the portal?

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      Still confused .. 4 months ago

      @to conclude : What "contact info" is it email id, name, just a number (id)..?

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      Nur-SOC 4 months ago

      Agreed with some of you. Those rejected from beginning only has Evaluation whilst those above threshold has Reserved and those secured fund has Main list in their coding. This is from my observation in this blog.

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      GF SOC 4 months ago

      @Soc it: I am not celebrating at all! I have no idea if we have deciphered the lines correctly, it's my third attempt and I just hope it works. So let's see what happens next, and we'll have time to circulate successful proposals afterwards :)

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      Mark 4 months ago

      @ Gr soc uk

      I am not sure that I understood you. My status yesterday was accepted above threshold and on main list false. Today I can see only: submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING". Any idea:-) ?

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      Just an opinion 4 months ago

      @If-lif

      What is more illegal to have a breach on your site or to search and finally find breach in sites? The first is called mistake the second is called hacking and i believe its not legal...

      The best thing to do would be not to use the specific links...

      Now people tha used these links are even more stressed in comparison to the patient ones who just wait!

      So if you want my opinion it could be wrong to complain either now or after the results.

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      stuffx 4 months ago

      Just to summarize from educated guesses plus several other posts:

      The original version of the link contained statuses (but no longer does, so don’t worry if you don’t see any). It’s pretty clear by now that the database on the website is being updated incrementally, which is why the phases and statuses of everyone as of Sunday night were:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)"

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted"

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Rejected"

      The evaluation phase is first, and the status “Accepted (above threshold)” refers to the 70% minimum quality threshold. The “Accepted” category could be proposals that were eligible, but below 70%, and “Rejected” could be proposals that were deemed ineligible for some reason (but again, that’s not clear from the context). Presumably these categories were filled out on the website as soon as the evaluation rankings were done, and it was only noticed this weekend.

      The problem now is that it’s non-trivial to decide the financial thresholds, which determine which proposals get funding. Since there are multiple disciplines, each with a different pot of money, a different number of proposals, and different requested budgets, all of these things need to be factored together before the MSCA folks can determine whether the financial threshold is, say, 90.1 vs 87.8 in the various categories. Once they’ve figured that out, only then can the proposals above the 70% threshold be taken into the “RANKING” phase and assigned a status that gives us some indication of the outcome.

      This is why on Monday morning, some proposals were updated to:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list"

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Reserved"

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      Shameless speculation: this may also why they can’t just release everyone’s results right now, because they’re probably still deciding the financial thresholds for some categories, and they need to officially notify everyone at once. It’s also not fair to get upset with the MSCA folks for this snafu. Yes, it was really poor programming, but no one made us look at that link.

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      Nico 4 months ago

      Hi to all of us waiting, does anyone know how is the notification process? Is there an online list or is it individual? Fingers and even toes crossed.

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      Soc it 4 months ago

      @GF SOC and @Gr-SOC, I know this is a quite weird request but before disappearing for celebrating can be so kind to share your project (fernando_956@hotmail.com)? Just the 10 pages excellence-implementation. Is it your first attempt? I think my project was rejected for low funding. Sadness but I dont want to give up.

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      IF-lif 4 months ago

      I agree with greg. I understand people who complained officially because they want to know if what they saw if real or not. It probably is since they removed it. It would be really funny (and cruel at the same time) if it's not real. :D

      Personally I wouldn't complain now, but just after we get the evaluation reports because (whether people like it or not) this shows pure implementation and it means that there is a breach (of security not privacy) in my opinion. Also as someone said already, it's against the law :P

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      CAR 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      I can see the UserIDs of three EU officers but unfortunately didn't access the link before they took down the status so don't know if it said main list or not. The guessing game continues... Fingers crossed this is a good sign.

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      EVN-IF 4 months ago

      As far as i know there are no people with accepted and people with rejected proposals right now...

      There are people waiting for the official results...

      I can't imagine how more stressed are the people that chose to use the link!

      Best to all

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      LA Ves 4 months ago

      now it's true again ;-)

      Absolutely strange... :-)

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      LA Ves 4 months ago

      There is still something going on at the linked website...

      My "canStartAmend" changed from true to false.

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      Gr-SOC 4 months ago

      @Z I totally understand how you feel, and I am dying to find out the results. I think that the fact that some people reported the link after seeing the info on it is really unfair and makes one not wanting to share information in the future.

      @greg I am with you, but why report the link? of course I know how people who saw rejected feel, I have seen rejections in my life and from the MSCA before and possibly again now but isn’t it unfair that they reported the link after seeing what it was saying for their own status?

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @Mark there were those who had their status changed to "Rejected (Low funding)", others who had “Reserve", and a few who had “Main List”. I think that those who were rejected from the beginning, have their phase now only as Evaluation and not Ranking. Pls correct me if I am wrong here

      @LordX mine is also false now. But I think it was also false before? not sure though

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      Bew 4 months ago

      @Mark

      I had accepted above threshold and today it was rejected...

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      LU 4 months ago

      Where do you see the ranking?

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @greg if we are to continue this guessing game it seems as though phase=Evaluation means that the proposal did not go past the 70% threshold and phase=Ranking means that the proposal was above the 70% threshold.

      If any of you have the contact information still of EU officers in the link, could this possibly mean that you were in the same status as myself before the status was taken out, which is “main list”?

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      4 months ago

      I was against reporting the link. However, I now know I was rejected, and in 12 months, for the next proposal, I won't be checking any links or trying to figure anything out.

      I've wasted days trying to interpret the smallest (potentially irrelevant signs). That produced a ton of anxiety and stress, and prevented me from doing my work normally. Now that I know that I've been rejected, I'm still dying to know my score and know why it was rejected.

      In short, I think everyone should take the approach they want, and really appreciate everyone sharing info here, but next year, I'll submit in September and wait for the email around Feb, and that's it.

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      LordX 4 months ago

      I don't undestand, why they have changed my finished to false. Does anyone else have that change?

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      greg 4 months ago

      @Gr-SOC

      I think it is unfair to point 'only to people who saw rejected'. do u ever think about those did not make a complaint and having rejected status feel? Come on. Sooner or later we all will know.

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      Gr-SOC 4 months ago

      @485! not exactly, the complaints were about breach of security and only by people who saw ‘rejected' in their status. nobody really doubted that these were results of some kind. They were visible only to the people who wrote the proposals, not to everyone, and it was an ok game to try and decode the information. Now, because some people who got rejected got upset, those who came late in here cannot see their status.

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      greg 4 months ago

      It's now Evaluation vs Ranking keyword. These are two different examples I observed here.

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      patience 4 months ago

      We are the future of science in the EU...

      Never used the link knowing that it will just add more stress...Now all the complaints come from people that chose to use the links...Very clever...

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      IF ENG UK 4 months ago

      Guess now the only way to confirm results is by the REA email. Good luck and relax - obviously REA has fixed the issue with the links.

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      GF-DN 4 months ago

      Are the links still working?

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      TRL 4 months ago

      RomanianFox I have exactly the same that you have. Did you see your status before they "hide it"???

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @CAR According to the previous status on the link I was on "main list" and could (and still can) see the contact information of the project and financial officer.

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      4 months ago

      Seriously, first people on here complain to the Marie-Curie people about being able to see their own status, then they complain on here that Marie-Curie hid the status because they complained.... :/ what a world.

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      abc 4 months ago

      guys, they now removed the words "Status" and "onMainList" from that..... they must be obsessed with these two words which have been questioning their expertise for 30 hrs, and now what a way to solve the problem :)

      @RomanianFox

      plz don't behave as EU techy guys....... and keep your proposal id safe :)

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      Mark 4 months ago

      I have only: submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING" without status. Any idea?

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      Bew 4 months ago

      Any news someone?

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      tracip 4 months ago

      I can't see anything!

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      LA-Ves 4 months ago

      Is there any update available?

      For my proposal:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING"

      What about the status? Does anybody still see his status?

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      4 months ago

      Last year I got the email with the results at 2:30pm.

      Maybe they won't send any out until tomorrow. Especially since they've been told to fix the bug that displays the proposal result.

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      JAV 4 months ago

      Anyone without status?

      I have "phase": RANKING but no status so far.

      Good luck people!

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      CAR 4 months ago

      What a joke, I'm sorry for the people who had to find out this way they got rejected.

      Can everyone see the names of a project, legal and finance officer? Or only the projects on the main list?

      Hope they will at least make an official announcement soon!

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      Nur-SOC 4 months ago

      They removed the status after "Evaluation" and "status" in the codes. But I guess I know the earlier codes and status for my project.

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      another candidate 4 months ago

      are you sure that results are coming out today?

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      Gr-SOC 4 months ago

      The links of course work, they are part of the architecture of the system. They just took out info on status! Well done those of you who complained! Now we cannot see our own status! And we will have to wait for god knows how long to get the results!

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      dads 4 months ago

      and they have changed the finished to false....

      They are cracks!

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      francif 4 months ago

      still not idea about when the final results will be released?

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      4 months ago

      It's all back online and they've removed the status from the link. Now you have less info than before.

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      GR-ENG 4 months ago

      Hehe since it is a fault at the architecture of the system and the can't change it they just make "STATUS" hidden at the pages that we were before! all the others informations are same

      If you can fix it --- hide it!

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      monkey 4 months ago

      the whole thing is hilarious.

      Good luck for all!

      I will try again next year.. on the meantime cross fingers for HFSP

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      more changes...

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING",

      Now "status" disappeared

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      el 4 months ago

      Link 'follow up' works again and lists the following:

      'Informed: 14 Feb 2017 (131/153 days)'

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      S@ 4 months ago

      Link is still working but no information on status, it shows:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","coordinatorLEName":...

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      4 months ago

      Link 'follow up' works again and lists the following:

      'Informed: 14 Feb 2017 (131/153 days)'

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      Trumping 4 months ago

      Come on, launch mails!!! more waiting has not sense!!

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      The FO is working again and the links too!

      Has anyone tried to use these links now?

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      Issue partly fixed. Links still available but no information on status. Clearly they re-worked on this.

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      greg 4 months ago

      @SOC-1sttry

      Haha true funny. No point to keep it private anymore.

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      Tamas 4 months ago

      "The Grant Management services may not be accessible today, 23rd of January, between 14:00 and 15:30 (CET) while system maintenance is being performed."

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      IM 4 months ago

      The Grant Management services may not be accessible today, 23rd of January, between 14:00 and 15:30 (CET) while system maintenance is being performed.

      Submission of proposals will not be impacted.

      We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

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      GR-ENG 4 months ago

      The Grant Management services may not be accessible today, 23rd of January, between 14:00 and 15:30 (CET) while system maintenance is being performed.

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      SOC-1sttry 4 months ago

      Yep, the link is down now and I cannot access to the follow-up in the participants' portal. Hopefully they will upload the results today, after all there is no point in keeping them private after this! Funny way of finding out the outcome

      Good luck to all those who didn't see the "Rejected" status!!

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      4 months ago

      Seriously, why is anyone even complaining that you can get info on your OWN application?! There's no breach of security, no way to edit the database - it's just a readout of data being passed to the web-page. Lame.

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      greg 4 months ago

      Some of us already know their results based on previous link shared. It is now the matter of formality from the EU website and letter to confirm the results. It's down simply because system will go live very soon. A normal procedure. Well done those success and keep try again others. And for EU hopes they will learn from their little careless.

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      stuffx 4 months ago

      Hopefully their attempts to fix the website won't delay further the publication of the final results, since they clearly have finite resources...

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      algae 4 months ago

      i am too chicken to check the link. I will pretend none of this is happening until I know for sure. hope everyone is fine whatever their results.

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      francif 4 months ago

      ...I cannot believe they are so "basic"...they should allocate some money for web experts projects!

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      oll 4 months ago

      I guess EU has shut down the links?

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      ... 4 months ago

      FollowUp link is down ?

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      Tirpitz 4 months ago

      Apparently they are doing something, as link apparently does not work at the moment...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      well done people, they took the website down. :-( there was no breach of security. there was nothing bad about it. it was just a glitch of the system. You still had to be logged in to your OWN account to be able to see this page. You could ONLY see your OWN project status and noone else’s.

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      As I wrote last night. I'm out, in my 2nd time. Now waiting for Evaluation results.

      On the other hand, this year the MSCA shown that IT talent is absent in EU

      See you guys in this forum and next time we will success!!

      Congrats to main list people!

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      IM 4 months ago

      The said link is down now

      "This site can’t be reached

      terebell.cc.cec.eu.int’s server DNS address could not be found."

      Even the Follow-up page is down with the same message.

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      The participant portal FO link is now down... also the weird link!

      They may upload the reports or they got frustrated with the hacking...

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      RAM 4 months ago

      I assume results will be published in 2 hours. The followup button is not working right now.

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      Bew 4 months ago

      Great, the site is down now... I'm sick and tired of this system already

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      IF-lif 4 months ago

      I can't access the FO page anymore or the provided links. Seems like they decided to do something after all?

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      curious-13 4 months ago

      @abc

      Haha. What a modern way to get a result! After they funded billions for high impact projects. :D

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      Still the same

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list",

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      IM 4 months ago

      The link I had used

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

      The result I got:

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list"

      "finished":false,"onMainList":false

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      RR 4 months ago

      I have submitted this issue to EU and they replied that they are working over it.

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      R2B2-13 4 months ago

      Has anyone gone from "Mainlist" to "REJECTED"??

      IF-EF for me;

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list" so far

      Here's hoping :/

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      Pat 4 months ago

      @R

      So the people using this link will complain about it.

      I m sure that people who wont get the funding will be the ones to complain to the EC...

      Just be patient...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @GF SOC my status is still the same "Main list’”. Has anyone else’s changed in the meantime? Has anybody tried to contact their NCPs?

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      abc 4 months ago

      I am out ! what a modern way of getting the results !

      thanks to EU and the MC team !

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      IF-lif 4 months ago

      @R and @greg

      Not sure whether you can see somebody else's application. Have you tried it? My impression is that you can only see yours as you have to be logged in to view the page.

      But I completely agree with you guys. This is a security breach and can easily be hacked. This compromises the process and a complaint would be the least we can do.

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      4 months ago

      There is no breach of privacy... you still have to be logged in so you can only see the data for your own proposal. Honestly, I don't see why anyone is upset - if anything its a good way to see what's going on with your own proposal behind the scenes.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @R you are wrong. You can only see the information for your own project. You need to log in to the system to be able to access this information

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      Bew 4 months ago

      I'm out too. It's so frustrating...

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      PSL 4 months ago

      The same "RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      But why "finished:false"?. Wondering if "Rejected (Low funding)" is just set default and it might change. Or perhaps I am just a dreamer, :) Good luck everyone

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      greg 4 months ago

      @Alioli

      This is what I commented earlier about the EU and its integrity, security and confidentiality. If it can easily get reveal like this means the process and database has high chance and possibilities to get hack as well. They said they aware of the issue but still proceeding to use the codes, databases and the visible link ? Just my thoughts.

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      4 months ago

      I'm also GF "Reserved", finished:false, onMainList:false.

      I was "above threshold" yesterday.

      My intuition is that MainList is A (accepted) and Reserved is B (reserve list)... pretty logical...

      First attempt for me.

      Not sure if there is still hope it might change from B to A...

      We will see!

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      Where I can find the status? 4 months ago

      Hello!

      Where you find the ""phase":"RANKING","status":?? I am not able to see it. Could someone explain me if it is in the follow-up or where?

      Many thanks!

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      GF SOC 4 months ago

      Has anyone noticed his/her status changing from Mainlist to Rejected?

      I have "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list","proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false}

      Just like Gr soc uk

      And I hope so much it is a good sign??

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      4 months ago

      I suggest everybody to make a screenshot of the pages where one can see data of the projects and the status. I think this is a clear breach of privacy. Basically, one can see the information for all projects by using a number generator that changes just the last part of the website. I will officially complaint about this issue against the European Commission.

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      greg 4 months ago

      @IF-lif

      Indeed unbelievable. They said they aware of the link but still proceed and make changes on it. Not surprise. We all can know the predictable individual results before the actual date.

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      loccott 4 months ago

      I also have

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      If the European comision really know about this, I don't know why they don't do anything to solve the situation.

      And Also, if the information that appears in the link is really true, why the results are not public yet...

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      GF SOC 4 months ago

      I have "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list” and "finished":false,"onMainList”:false

      just like Gr soc uk

      @Gr soc uk as your page changed since??

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @Ae Soc don’t know what to make of it… Second attempt with different university this time - last year 90.4. I am terrified that they are just considering the applications and ranking them and that we will be out. Do you also have contact information in the link about project officer and financial officer? I have had this info from the beginning (I mean when I found out about this link) and it is possible that it signifies something?

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      One more out (standard IF, ENV).

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      Keeping my fingers crossed for all of you who have "Main list" and "Reserved"!

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      Q. 4 months ago

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list"

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      Status 4 months ago

      phase":"RANKING","status":"Reserved"

      What does it means? Reserved list?

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      Ae Soc 4 months ago

      @Gr Soc Uk

      I have the same as yours, and I am in IF-EF (Soc)... Really really scared now...

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      Leakey 4 months ago

      I'm out:

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      Good luck

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      I think success is a combination of luck, and attempts. In my case this is my third attempt. First 78.8, second 91.2 (86.9 after redress). The budget is not enough to fund all good proposals, so I believe that almost all first attempt proposals will be rejected. If resubmitted, they may be funded.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      In my case it is

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      So I guess this means I'm out

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      soc_if 4 months ago

      rejected (low fundings) :(

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      SOC-1sttry 4 months ago

      Now I see "status": Rejected (Low funding) too. I had "Accepted (Above Threshold)" so I think I'm out. I just wish they released the results, or at least a final date, so we can stop worrying.

      Good luck to everyone!

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      I'd prefer not thinking anything. Given the low funding rates, that would be very low probable having two of the same panel funded in this chat. Bottom line is we don't know but that's an intriguing hack indeed...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      OK, I get:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list”

      "finished":false,"onMainList”:false

      perhaps this means we are still being considered? but not that we are in main list A- possibly also reserve or we could possibly be rejected in a few hours?

      Good luck all!

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      123 4 months ago

      I am out for the third time, now it shows

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)","coordinatorLEName":"----","proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false

      earlier it was "Accepted (Above threshold)"

      good luck to you guys

      its ironic how EC functions....... and now all the earlier frustrations about lottery etc. prove to be justified !

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      out 4 months ago

      phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

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      JV 4 months ago

      Where do you obtain "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list",?

      I cant't find this text in my application. Can someone explain to me how to find it?

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      RS 4 months ago

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Reserved"

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      for those of you who can see changes in your status: are you GF?

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      Nur-SOC 4 months ago

      I have been observed and tried the link shared as well. The process is very predictable and easily to track by people. I'm interested to know how unbiased the EU to consider different nationalities. Hope they will give a chance to applicants from developing countries. I am still observing the Web and blog here.

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      abcde 4 months ago

      Here: "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

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      4 months ago

      I'm out:

      "phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      Can't be clearer than that.

      Good luck people.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      no changes yet for me. @ENV-GF-US and @ENV-GF do you think that means you are in?!

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      S@ 4 months ago

      For me it is now: "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      I had "phase": "Evaluation", "status": "Accepted (Above threshold)

      Good luck for the rest of you!

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      greg 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      thanks for the info. Well the link looks real and updated info especially the status and details of the proposal. It seems that status code is the first step either in or out for the proposal.

      @Faufou

      I'm checking it now. Thanks. Hope the speculations here are not true and it will give hope and chance to everyone. But that link really tell something obvious.

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      Same here. I have:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list",

      (but still have: "onMainList":false)

      Note that my last year failed attempt indicates:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"ARCHIVE","status":"Cancelled",

      (with "onMainList":true)

      Conclusion:

      - "onMainList" definitely means nothing.

      - the EC takes it seriously (see @EDM VDM's post) so there may be some meaning in here...

      Good luck to everyone.

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      GR-ENG 4 months ago

      So i m out

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

      proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false

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      ov 4 months ago

      Mine is: "phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list", "finished":false,"onMainList":false

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      Alioli 4 months ago

      First of all, I understand you all. I am also waiting and I am nervous (now I am quite more knowing this information).

      I cannot believe it. Really? Is there a real "back-door" in the Marie Curie IF process? Who can ensure us that the "hacker" that found it can not change the results? So, it is not about what is the meaning of some computational language. It is a more serious. I am quite worried. Should be continue trusting the European Commission?

      Do you know that it could be legally denounced? and if it is the case, I don´t want to imagine the consequences.

      So, please...it is not helpfully, not at all...the resolution will come anyway...we could find the two sides of a coin!

      Crossing fingers! Luck for everyone!

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      monkey 4 months ago

      now i can see :( "status":"Rejected (Low funding)"

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      GF.SOC.once again 4 months ago

      From the MSCA fb page, their response to a question of when the results should be expected:

      "Marie Skłodowska-Curie Actions:

      Hi,

      Don't worry, the results will be announced soon! You should find out around the end of this month."

      So I assume over the weekend the latest.

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      More changes. Now it is

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"RANKING","status":"Main list",

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      @Greg

      Scroll down to see the posts published around this month in 2015 and 2016, it will help you to understand the chaos back then.

      Btw, releasing the results on Friday is once again just another guess of ours. It's true for last year, but untrue for the year before.

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      Now calm down, people.

      I take this proposal very seriously because I'm out of science already and this is one of my last chances to return before the door closes down behind me. However, I treat all this guessing game as just a pastime to engage my nerves. It helps. In the best case scenario I've already got a hint that I'm above 70% (thank goodness); in the worst case scenario it means nothing and I'll get all the info shortly. I hope we're all here capable of differentiating between possibilities and reality.

      We all began beating the odds when we started grad school. In my country we began beating the odds even earlier, when we started Uni if not when we chose general secondary schools over vocational ones. It's no news to me that I'm redundant to the job market. But the heart wants what it wants.

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      ENV-GF-US 4 months ago

      A good reason for doing it on a Monday now. :)

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      Rr 4 months ago

      lets see how the results come

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      I send a message in the group MSCA in Facebook and i took the above reply:

      ##There is no official date for the results of the call, but it will be sometime around the end of January.

      I'm sorry I can't tell you anything more specific. Have a good evening,

      and also i've asked about these links and the reply was:

      ##This is definitely not how the results are supposed to be released. I am already aware of this issue and will have our web-team as soon as possible.

      Meanwhile, I advise you not to follow this link.

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      Quentin 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      In one of my proposals, I mean I m not the applicant but the PI (of 3 proposals)

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      greg 4 months ago

      @Faifou

      This is so surprised and unbelievable.

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      4 months ago

      So will the results be posted today at 12? Or on Friday?

      Kind of a big difference.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      I still remember the chaos for the last two rounds of MC. Last year, knowing that the whole process will take few days to complete, they still decided to start distributing evaluation reports on a Friday, so while some of the applicants celebrated over the weekend, the other half had to nervously spend the entire weekend until the EU resumed their work on next Monday.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      All I have learnt from my previous three-year experience is how incompetent and unprofessional of these Brussels bureaucrats are. For the country where I am from, the exact release date of a major funding is always announced one month earlier with the exact time, like Nov. 12th @10am, when they say 10am, they actually mean it, not 1 minute early or 1 minute late. Not only that, they also publish a comprehensive stats at the same time, with several nice pie charts showing the amount of funded proposals in each panel, male/female ratio, and nationality distribution. I reckon this is how it is supposed to be done, unlike how the EU handles Marie Curie, which only fuels speculations among the applicants like we witness here.

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      CZ 4 months ago

      I just tried both links everybody is referring to and I got a file download pop up window with an unknown file type named as my project id and the options to find(a program online to open it)/save/cancel. I really dont know what this means, or if it's helpful. Good luck to everyone!

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      greg 4 months ago

      @Rr

      Agreed with you. That's what I thought.

      @Ch

      Normally for others is on friday. Not sure previous years for Marie curie.

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      greg 4 months ago

      @Rr

      Agreed with you. That's what I thought.

      @Ch

      Normally for others is on friday. Not sure previous years for Marie curie.

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      4 months ago

      @RAM how do you know that the results will be released today at 12?

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      QT 4 months ago

      @RAM why it will be "12 am GMT" when application deadline was Brussels time (Central European Time) ...

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      Ch 4 months ago

      It is released always on Friday ....so may be more wait ...

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      well, according to Marie Curie, the time to understand more is now:

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c9/...

      listen to the old lady, be fearless.

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      MSCA2016 4 months ago

      any updated news????

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      Rr 4 months ago

      I wonder everything about result is known here when even EU C make all things very unbiased. I dont know how it is possible.

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      MSCA2016 4 months ago

      i am stressed out....

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      MSCA2016 4 months ago

      any luck?? any news?

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      Applicant IIF 201 4 months ago

      Yes, No News Yet :(. As per last year's calculation, till now at-least the announcement date of results should be there in EU website

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      RTLIF 4 months ago

      Hi guys

      No news yet..

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      TRL 4 months ago

      Quite true Usa_lif but ...

      It is a big deal for many of us. And that is why all this guessing around (making people crazy) would not happen if the European commission would just strict to a fixed date.

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      Yes i have stage 2...what this means;

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      Usa_lif 4 months ago

      So most of this appears to be bad attempts at reading tea leaves. Predictions of when results will be available or what somewhat ambiguous terms mean seem like an overly stressful use of people's time.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @Quent what do you mean in one of your proposals?

      @RAM how do you know? They havent even announced on the portal about when the results will be available, like they did last year

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      Now... submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)", "coordinatorLEName":"----","proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false

      finished from false to true.

      And I don't have contact info

      My conclusion, I'm out.

      Good Luck!!!

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      Quent 4 months ago

      In one of my proposals I have the name of an officer :

      "contacts":{"projectOfficer":"Francesco Paolo XXXX

      ","projectOfficerUserId":"mancfra","poDepartmentId":"31016205","financialOfficerUserId":"lepispa","ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]}

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      RAM 4 months ago

      Guys I told you already, wait till 12 am GMT today. You will receive automated email from consortium to your inbox.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM @Helen

      In the process specific documents in the participant portal under commumication do you have the Stage 2 in your proposals' title?

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      4 months ago

      Those people saying the results will be tomorrow at noon, how do you know this?

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      Mark 4 months ago

      Guys sleep well and stop thinking about MC:-) until tomorrow.

      All the best for all.

      Sweet dreams :-)))

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      greg 4 months ago

      Is It means those with rejected in decoding may not have any chance and those have accepted with and without above treshold is the main issue, probably?

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      123 4 months ago

      I think we touching only parts of a big elephant

      @Jules your estimates are wrong, at least I can see it for myself without any input from others as I have,

      this year

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)", "coordinatorLEName":"----","proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      and last year

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"ARCHIVE","status":"Cancelled","coordinatorLEName":"---","proposal":false,"finished":false,"onMainList":true

      and so you should also not loose hope !

      and @DWK

      no need for any sorry. You made us engaged with something :), and I still think that to be not a non-sense.... only thing which look to me is that this data is just after "first-stage" as it has so many discrepancies at many level !

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @MSCA-IF

      the status that we are talking about here is found in this link:

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

      change xxxxxx with your proposal id (6 digits).

      is this what you are talking about as well?

      any others with contact info like myself?

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      Leakey 4 months ago

      Sleep well, get ready for tomorrow. Luck ;+!

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      MSCA-IF 4 months ago

      Nothing change it is similar as it was 2 days back:

      My proposal (s)=FO=14 Sept 2016 (submitted) and 14 Feb 2017 (130/153 days) Informed

      Process specific documents = XXXXXX-stage2-XXXXXXX-SEALED-PROPOSAL

      why there is no update in my case?

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      Helen 4 months ago

      @Mark :) It is wonderful indeed. You made me smile. Thanks.

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      Jules 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk @DWK @SOC484

      Yeah I realized that too after I posted the comment :). Maybe "onMainList" is automatically "true" once all fellows have been awarded the grant.

      Or is here someone with a last year rejected project with "onMainList" "false"?

      @Mark

      Sorry for posting my honest opinion ;)

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      Be patient 4 months ago

      I really believe that you put some extra stress on you guys...

      We will have the official results in a while...

      I wish people that think they saw good results following the decoding of the site, not to be dissapointed tommorow

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      MSCA-IF 4 months ago

      My status still unchanged and it shows similar as 2 days back.

      What should I do?

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      Mark 4 months ago

      @ IF-SOC

      My last year project was accepted and true and it was not funded.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      @Jules

      Some last year's rejected projects were on "onMainList".

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      Mark 4 months ago

      @Jules

      Dear Jules,

      How can you write this post??? Unbelievable!!!

      Guys keep calm and wait for the final results.

      Good luck for everybody. Life is wonderful and without Marie Curie fellowship.

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @ Jules

      Not really. There are several counter examples. Someone who rejected last year had true of onMainList. So, currently, onMainList means nothing.

      I think that the status is NOT final status. Guys, I'm really sorry to make this chaos. Let's wait for the announcement.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @Z this is what I am referring to:

      "contacts":{"projectOfficer”:"xxxx","projectOfficerUserId”:"xxxx","poDepartmentId”:"xxxx","financialOfficerUserId”:"xxxx","ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]},

      where xxx are the the names and ids of the project officer and the financial officer. (not related to the beneficiary but to the EU)

      @Jules what about last year’s proposals that were not funded and had onMainList:true ?

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      ... 4 months ago

      @RAM what made you believe that?

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      loccott 4 months ago

      @lordx

      Accepted above threshold I'm afraid.

      Anyway, we will discover soon the meaning of everything

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      IF-SOC 4 months ago

      Agreed with you Greg. EU must take consideration on its credibility, especially as it is the funder. Wow.. Jules, this is very particular and it makes sense now.

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      456 4 months ago

      @ loccott

      Interesting, you are stating that last year you got

      status":"Accepted" [i.e., without the extra info "(above threshold)"], but still your proposal was not funded?

      If this is true, it contradicts what people are saying here, right guys?

      @123 thanks for the clarification

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      RAM 4 months ago

      I am sure that they will publish results exactly at 12 am GMT. So please check your portal near to that time.

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      Jules 4 months ago

      I very much agree with greg. I believe that people with

      "status":"Accepted", "onMainList":true are on the "A list" ("The 'A list' which consist of the proposals which will be funded")

      - CONGRATS Vim

      "status":"Accepted", "onMainList":false are on the "B list" ( "The 'B list' which consists of the proposals on the reserve list"

      - Cross my fingers for you Lis

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)", "onMainList":false are on the "C list" ("the 'C list' which are the proposals which cannot be funded despite being above the threshold of 70%")

      - for all the others (including me :) ) don´t give up hope. Just keep applying for grants!!!

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      4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk, what fields are you looking at on the webpage? I searched for "officer" and nothing came back.

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      @loccott

      Status accepted or accepted (above threshold)?

      We will the trust soon

      Finally, I think that is results from stage 1

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      just to add to the contact info I have in the link. I have identified both the project officer and the financial officer and they are both the same nationality as myself. Moreover, they both work under the depending entity Marie-Sklodowska-Curie Individual Fellowships: European, the project officer under 002. Project Management, and the financial officer under 003. Administration and Finance.

      Can anybody else confirm whether they have this info? I guess most proposals would be allocated a project officer and a financial officer?

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      greg 4 months ago

      After viewing all comments I guess it's almost true. If this is the case, the EU must consider to hire more talented and skillful programers, database admin, system architect, etc for its database system/ website. If results can easily reveals like this means there's no integrity, security and confidentiality. Just my opinion. Well done those made it and keep trying those who don't . :)

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      123 4 months ago

      for me its

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)", "coordinatorLEName":"----","proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      being on same EU site, the data is not a non-sense for sure...... its all about decoding it !

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      loccott 4 months ago

      Here accepted under status and false under Main list. I have check last year id and I have the same information and last year I get a 87.50. I believe that this means I am out of budget. It could be interesting to check that with someone who get fund last year to see if under main list true is written.

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      SOC-GF 4 months ago

      Just to add to the speculations, I also have

      status":"Accepted (above threshold)”

      "proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false"

      canDeclineSignGA":true"

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @Z Faufou does have status as accepted(above threshold). He/she wrote that later.

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      In my last year's (in reserve list), there is also contact info. I think this will be updated soon.

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ Gr soc uk

      As you can see, i have not something like that...

      Has anyone else notice this?

      So, as i can see there are differences between the format of the answers between us....Is it possible?

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      845! 4 months ago

      Hello, i have just read all your comments...how sure is that link?people become more nervos about this false and true and accepted and rejected.....is it possible that the results are released in this way before the EU announcement?

      the applicants from last years, had this opportunity with similar links to see their results before the formal announcement?

      Because i think that if something like that is not true, it is unfair for all of us to be happy or sad without true evidence...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      no i dont mean the coordinator. After contacts i have the name of a "projectOfficer", his/her id "projectofficerUserId", "poDepartmentId", "financialOfficerUserID", "ccpersonsinvitationletter" which is blank, ie [].

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      4 months ago

      Also, the fact the faufou has no status and is not on the evaluation phase, but rather "submission" would imply his proposal hasn't been evaluated yet.

      If that's the case, then don't expect the results over the next few days.

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      4 months ago

      To recap, this is what everyone has posted.

      I used this format - username: onMainList, status

      Lis: False, Accepted

      Vim: True, Accepted

      Z: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      DWK: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      CAR: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      Gr soc uk: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      oll: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      RS: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      GR - ENG: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      SOC848: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      IM: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      R2B2-13: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      Palette Seyens: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      LordX: False, Accepted (above threshold)

      faufou: False, [no status, phase = submission]

      Helen: Rejected

      EDM VDM: False, Rejected

      TRL: Rejected

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ Gr soc uk

      Thank you for your reply... but i have not something like that... it is only written the above

      "budget":"ecContribution":"159460.80",

      "totalBudget":"159460.80"},

      "actions":{},

      "contacts":{"ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]},

      "beneficiaries":{"values":{"XXXXXX":{"coordinator":true,"thirdParties":[],"utros":],

      "order":1,"id":"XXXXXX",

      "legalName":"XXXXXX",

      "shortName":"XXXXXX","partnerType":"NORMAL"}},

      "picsType":{"XXXXXX":"NORMAL"},

      "picsShortName":{"[XXXXXX]":"XXXXXX"},

      "picShortName":{"XXXXXX":"XXXXXX"},

      "picName":{"XXXXXX":"XXXXXX"},

      "coordinator":"XXXXXX"}

      Do you mean the coordinator?

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      Keep calm... 4 months ago

      The blog today is sad...

      "Patience is not simply the ability to wait - it's how we behave while we're waiting."

      Plz keep calm and wait for the official results.

      Don't be misleaded by assumptions without a true base.

      We are all scientists and I would expect more confidence.

      However the only think someone can see in this forum right now is despair...

      That's sad...

      Keep calm people...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @RAST nobody is saying that the EU employees are working today. We are discussing info from a link that must have been updated at some point in the past.

      @PSL difficult to believe that. It must be just the 70% threshold

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      4 months ago

      @PSL it seems everyone here has the Threshold annotation, so it's unlikely that having it means it will be funded when the success rate is around 10%

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      4 months ago

      Again, does anyone actually have "accepted" (without "threshold") and/or onMainList?

      There is only one mention of this here, and maybe it was an error or just leaving out the "threshold" to type faster.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      It is after the budget line under contacts. It has projectofficial and then the name of someone working in EU

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      TRL 4 months ago

      I guess I am also out :-(

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Rejected"

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      PSL 4 months ago

      Bear in mind that threshold may refer to either the 70% threhold or the cutt-off threhold, as suggested in this article. http://mariecurieactions.blogspot.ch/2016/01/if-20...

      In this case, I would say that those with "accepted" are just accepted but under cut-off threhold and "accepted (above threhold)" are accepted and funded. Makes sense

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      RAST 4 months ago

      Why the EU employees are going to work on weekend? The blog today is a mess, keep calm, we should wait the oficial results, not rummors or missunderstanding. Tomorrow could be the day.

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      Mari 4 months ago

      Does anyone can read only "Accepted" (withouth "above threshold")?

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      @ Gr soc uk

      Where exactly you saw that?

      And also guys i cannot find my post, so i am posting again the above:

      regarding the "canDeclineSignGA", even in my case where status is rejected, in "canDeclineSignGA" is stated : true.

      Also i post above, what the link shows me, in order to find differences (if they are) between rejected and accepted status. Because, i think that normally should be there differences.

      So in my rejecte status are stated the above:

      "proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      "canAddMessage":false,"canAccessProjectMessages":true,"canViewAmend":true,"canStartAmend":true,"canViewGAT":false,"canStartGAT":false,"canSendFN":true,"isFP7":false,"isCoordinator":true,"isNotFPA":true,"isCOSME":false,"isMSCAIF":true,"isSGA":false,"canDeclineSignGA":true,"canStartAmendBasedOnPrev":true,"canUseHdsDocumentDownload":true,"canUseDocumentAuditTrail": true

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      Be patient 4 months ago

      Just be patient for 1 or 2 days. These tricks dont help anyone...Just add more stress to people trying to decode parts of the portal page...

      We will all receive a letter in a few hours so keep the tricks to yourselves please.

      Good luck

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      Mark 4 months ago

      I have checked my last year rejected proposal and on main list was true:-)

      I think, this does not mean anything.

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      Mari 4 months ago

      I hope that "Accepted (above threshold)" means that the project will be funded.

      Does anyone has just "Accepted"?

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      123 4 months ago

      @456

      I was posing a question if somebody found "Accepted" without mentioning "(above threshold)" ? then the accepted status would have two classes (funded and just-passed or may be reserve),

      otherwise it may be possible that this data was just the first stage results as somebody also said. That may be well possible.... just wish so...... otherwise I am so with "Accepted (above threshold)" and with just "Accepted":(

      "onMainList" True or false doesn't make a sense at all as we have many counter examples from previous experiences.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      In this link is the official mentioned as project officer a national of the country you are from? In my case yes and i found it pretty strange to be pure coincidence

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      hi203 4 months ago

      To me it is quite clear that the key is "status":

      "Accepted (above threshold)" means above 70% but rejected

      Just "Accepted" means project funded

      Hopefully everything will be confirmed tomorrow

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @Mark i think these are the results of the first stage, whether they are above or below the threshold and not the official final results.

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      456 4 months ago

      @123

      not entirely clear what you said: you are saying that in your link it is written:

      "status":"Accepted"

      "onMainList":True

      ?

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Mark

      I think that this is not against the rules. If someone has modern browser, such as explorer, safari, chrome, etc., then he/she can easily find this address via built-in functions which show source code of current web page. The portal seems to be developed careless.

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      abc 4 months ago

      Here is it for a rejected above threshold proposal of last year

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"ARCHIVE","status":"Cancelled","coordinatorLEName":"---","proposal":false,"finished":false,"onMainList":true

      So guys all the "onMainList" discussion is simply misleading !

      Nobody should loose hope until there is a letter seen from EU, Good luck to all !

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      RAM 4 months ago

      I guess, the main loop here starts with the phase status. For rejected projects from last year this is "phase":"Archived" : and for the current proposals it is "phase":"EVALUATION"

      You have to patiently wait to see whether the phase changes or not before reading all other messages that comes under that boolean loop to be true.

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      LordX 4 months ago

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)", "proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      I can't acces to my previous year info...

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      123 4 months ago

      Just to confirm it, as somebody told

      "status":"Accepted"

      does "Accepted" appear without mentioning (above threshold)

      and also if

      "onMainList":True

      is there.

      me getting nervous guys !!

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      Mark 4 months ago

      Dear all, do not be upset. It is unbelievable that results can be published anywhere before announcement of EU Commission or the deadline. This is against the rules. I have discussed with my friend who is lawyer in EU Commission and he told me that it is the mission impossible that somewhere exist indications about the projects that has been awarded or not, before deadline or the announcement of the results.

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      Regarding the "canDeclineSignGA", even in my case where status is "rejected", in canDeclineSignGA is stated: true.

      Above please find, what the link shows to me, in order to find (if there are) differences between "rejected" and "accepted" status....

      "proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      "canAddMessage":false,"canAccessProjectMessages":true,"canViewAmend":true,"canStartAmend":true,"canViewGAT":false,"canStartGAT":false,"canSendFN":true,"isFP7":false,"isCoordinator":true,"isNotFPA":true,"isCOSME":false,"isMSCAIF":true,"isSGA":false,"canDeclineSignGA":true,"canStartAmendBasedOnPrev":true,"canUseHdsDocumentDownload":true,"canUseDocumentAuditTrail":true

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      4 months ago

      @SOC484 I agree too, you are really an optimist :)

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)", "proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      Not finished yet? Quite a lot of such cases among us, I wonder what this means.

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      DWK 4 months ago

      I totally agree with R2B2-13. Based on my experience in computer programming, the variable, "canDeclineSignGA", seems to be related to user interface for declining to accept the grant.

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      Psy 4 months ago

      The links do not work, where exactly the info?

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      @Helen

      let's wait for the official results. anyway more than 90% of us will be rejected = will require the support of other.

      at least those who are unlucky will have each other, a myriad of them.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      @R2B2-13

      thank you! I would love to have such an option. ha-ha

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM @Helen

      I am sorry to hear that you have in your status rejected, but dont lose hope as of yet! Its not certain that what was found means really something, it could be random so just wait a few days for the official results

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      R2B2-13 4 months ago

      "canDeclineSignGA" sounds like you can decline to accept the grant agreement but I'm not 100% sure. Anybody who failed last year know?

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      can someone tell me what does "canDeclineSignGA" mean?

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      here is full (almost) information about my project:

      "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)",

      [...]

      "proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false},"budget":{"ecContribution":"170121.60","totalBudget":"170121.60"},"actions":{},"contacts":{"ccPersonsInvitationLetter":[]},"beneficiaries":{"values":{"999641746":{"coordinator":true,"thirdParties":[],"utros":[],"order":1,"id":"999641746",

      [...]

      "programme":"H2020","canAddMessage":false,"canAccessProjectMessages":true,"canViewAmend":true,"canStartAmend":true,"canViewGAT":false,"canStartGAT":false,"canSendFN":true,"isFP7":false,"isCoordinator":true,"isNotFPA":true,"isCOSME":false,"isMSCAIF":true,"isSGA":false,"canDeclineSignGA":true,"canStartAmendBasedOnPrev":true,"canUseHdsDocumentDownload":true,"canUseDocumentAuditTrail":true}

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      Helen 4 months ago

      No anxiety here: status "Rejected" :-( Very disappointed.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      @ GR - ENG

      Yes, I have "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION"

      @Z @Faufou

      If failed last year's project had "main list true" this is actually a good news for those who have "main list false". Thank you, guys!

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      R2B2-13 4 months ago

      Hi Guys,

      This is my first application. mine says;

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)"

      "proposal":true,

      "finished":false,

      "onMainList":false

      But further down it says;

      "canDeclineSignGA":true

      I'm sooooooo nervous about this :(

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      GR - ENG 4 months ago

      We are sure that they already update our results?

      Did anybody saw yesterday the https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/... in order to know if the information changed/ update from yesterday?

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      4 months ago

      - @Vim

      You say that yours says:

      "Status:Accepted" onMainlist: True

      But does the status section say Above Threshold?

      - Does anyone else have onMainList: True?

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      @Z

      Same here, failed last year, but it says main list true.

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      abcde 4 months ago

      @Z

      Are you sure last year appears "mainlist": true and you were out? In this case "mainlist": false/true does not mean we are in/out as we are guessing...

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      I dont think the mainlist means anything, especially after what @Z wrote. The status of the application will be where it says status. And the phase would need to change from evaluation to something else

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      DWK 4 months ago

      From Z's last year case, we now know that MainList is not A-list and current status is not final one. Thanks guys.

      @EDM VDM

      I'm sorry to hear that... But nobody knows what will happen in the due date, so don't trust what we are discussing too much. Good luck!

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      main list false, so after all, im out.

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      PSL 4 months ago

      Yes, in my case. The question is, which of the both links should prevail guys? What do you think? One of them is called "outofdateproject" and the other "project".

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @GR -ENG yes, i have the same

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      SOC-1sttry 4 months ago

      I think that "status: accepted" means only what some people have said: We passed the 70% threshold. Unfortunately, I also have the feeling that onMainList:false (which I see in my proposal) means rejection, specially after reading that someone had "onMainList: true" below. Is there anyone here who got the grant on previous calls and can check that?

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      4 months ago

      The mainlist theory sounds plausable.

      However, my proposal last year says mainlist = TRUE

      And that proposal was rejected... What do you make of that?

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      GR - ENG 4 months ago

      is "submissionStage":0,"phase":"EVALUATION"" for all of you guys?

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      @DWK

      Thank you for the comfort. I just had another look of the link, and I also see the "status: accepted (above threshold)" thing now. Given the overwhelmingly positive feedback from most of us, I really think it only means we are all above the 70% threshold and nothing else.

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      crosta 4 months ago

      Hi guys, what about the "follow up" button? after clicking I saw "Informed" 14 Feb 2017!

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      IM 4 months ago

      Guys, the link seems to be the real deal, looks like I am out, as it says:

      phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)","proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false

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      SOC-1stry 4 months ago

      EDM VDM, yes, I see the same difference between both links for my proposal. Don't know what it means.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      they are different.

      in my case:

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)","finished":false,"onMainList":false

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)","proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false

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      GR - ENG 4 months ago

      Same here: 0,"phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold), "finished":false,"onMainList":false} unfortunately i belive that most likely that mainlist is list A (succeed)

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      4 months ago

      This year's project:

      "phase":"EVALUATION","status":"Accepted (above threshold)"

      "proposal":true,"finished":false,"onMainList":false

      Last year's (above threshold but below funding) project:

      "proposal":false,"finished":false,"onMainList":true

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      RS 4 months ago

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)"

      "onMainList":false

      I don't know what to think about it.

      Anyway, good to share links and feelings. Thanks guys.

      There is still room for luck.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      @DWK

      It is A-list.

      Here is a quote from Grants Manual -Proposal submission and evaluation: "We will rank the proposals that passed the thresholds according to the results of the evaluation by

      the experts (‘Commission/Agency ranked list’).

      This ranked list consists of:

       a main list (proposals proposed for funding)

       normally also a reserve list (in case proposals are withdrawn, excluded or extra funding

      becomes available)"

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      IM 4 months ago

      Now there is no maintenance notice ....

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      Hi everyone...i also tried the links and unfortunately i saw status"rejected". but also i've noticed that there are some differences between the different links.

      For example:

      In the above link :

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

      Finished:false, onmainlist: false

      but here: https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

      Finished: true, onmainlist: false.

      Also there are and other differences.

      Have anyone else noticed that?

      In case that these links are really our resutls, congratulation for those who succeed!!!

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Faufou

      Don't be let down please. These are nothing yet. Nobody knows what these are exactly. In my thought, your status would be updated sooner or later.

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Faufou

      I think that your proposal is not updated yet.

      I suppose that "threshold" means just 70% of threshold. But what is MainList? Is it A-list?

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      oll 4 months ago

      Hi there:

      "status":"Accepted (above threshold)"

      "onMainList":false

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      i am so tired, in the past three years, i spent at least 3 months each year almost full time focusing on these proposals, and nothing good came out from these efforts. time to move on and leave research altogether.

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      SOC484 4 months ago

      I have "canDeclineSignGA":true

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      @Gr soc uk

      for the "phase" mine says submission. and i couldn't find "status" at all. according to the post below from DWK, without "status" only means that i am out.

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @ MSCAIF

      Mine is true.

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      MSCAIF 4 months ago

      Hi Guys

      What is the status of "canDeclineSignGA":

      it is true or false

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      DWK 4 months ago

      This is my 3rd time. 1st was 78 and 2nd was 90 (reserve list). In the page of 1st one, I cannot find "status", but "onMainList" is false. In 2nd one, "status" is "Reserved", but "onMainList" is also false.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @vim doesnt it say above threshold? Does it mean you got it?

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Cy

      1) log on your accont on participant portal.

      2) click right mouse button on the link

      3) copy the link and paste it on your browser

      4) replace the end of address to your 6-digits id

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      @faufou

      Check where it says phase: does it say evaluation.

      I also have finished:true but also status accepted

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      Guess I am out again for the third time, because it doesn't show the "status accepted" thing at all. What I found in that line is "proposal":true,"finished":true,"onMainList":false. I also tried my last year's proposal ID, it also says "finished": true. I think it means the process for my proposal is finished at this stage, and it won't progress to the next stage of negotiation and signing.

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      Gr soc uk 4 months ago

      I am also status accepted above threshold and onmainlist false.

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      Vim 4 months ago

      Mine says :

      "Status:Accepted" onMainlist: True

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      Vim 4 months ago

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      Cy 4 months ago

      @DWK

      The site isnt opening. Is it possible to give a step by step description of how you got there? I also opened all the items and nothing new has been uploaded by the commission.

      Guys! It's really hard to wait. I didnt know i would survive this weekend...though it's yet to finish.

      Well done and keep discussing. It helps a lot to come here and read comments.

      Good luck as from tomorrow.

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      Vim 4 months ago

      Hi idk,

      No, it is for 2016 call :

      check "H2020-MSCA-IF-2016"" & your coordinator name (coordinatorLEName)

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      MSCAIF 4 months ago

      @ idk and DWK

      If it is for out of date projects, how come the acronym will be same as ours?

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      Vim 4 months ago

      Hi RTLIF,

      change XXX with ur project id

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/...

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      Gr soc 4 months ago

      How do you get to that page? What do you mean by 6 digits ?

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      Lis 4 months ago

      Mine says "Status:Accepted" onMainlist: false.

      Thank you all for the information and discussion :-) Good luck!

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      RTLIF 4 months ago

      Hi guys

      Where it is shown.when i tried to open the link it is not working

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      idk 4 months ago

      @DWK your link is for out of date projects with the same ID as yors, so it seems you just sees somebody else's results from previous years.

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      CAR 4 months ago

      This could just mean that we're above the 70% threshold, but not an indication we're above the cut off threshold for funding? Hope we'll know for sure soon. My main list is also false.

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      CAR 4 months ago

      @DWK

      Mine also says Accepted (above threshold).

      How did you end up on that page?

      Fingers crossed

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      DWK 4 months ago

      Also, you can find "onMainList". Mine is false. Let's share your "status" and "onMainList"

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      DWK 4 months ago

      Hi guys,

      A minute ago, I found something significant on the participant portal. After you log on the portal, visit following address.

      https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/grants/... (6 digits)

      On the middle of lines, you can find "status."

      How's your status?

      Mine is "status: Accepted (above threshold)."

      I am just wondering whether this status is default or not.

      Please try and let me know.

      Thanks,

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      Another GAP-xxxxxx 4 months ago

      Thanks @AS, I loved this GAP-xxxxxx game, very nice way to get distracted little bit from the tedious waiting!

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      4 months ago

      Good Luck Everyone !! Hope our wait will end after "short maintenance activities Participant Portal services" :P

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      123 4 months ago

      @Faufou

      I completely agree with you as similar stuff happened to me twice as well. That's irony but one can't do anything.... that's why i said unfortunately (or fortunately if you win)... its like winning a lottery ......

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      what i find frustrating is that i was forced to write a proposal using layman's terms so that everyone can understand. this is easy for certain areas, for instance, cancer research, everyone can grasp the concept easily when they see the word "cancer", but not so easy for other areas. i doubt that 100 years ago, marie curie herself needed to worry about whether her research can be easily understood by broad public.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      based on my two failed attempts in the past, what i find is that not only the reviewers were totally outside my area, they also didn't even bother try to understand the concept. all the comments were with the same format like: XXX is not sufficiently addressed (XXX can be anything, for example, objectives, state of the art, training, public engagement etc. etc.). i cannot help but wondering how sufficient is sufficient. none of these comments are in any way related to the real research quality of the proposal itself, and offer no constructive suggestions.

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      Cy 4 months ago

      Guys im convinced the results are already set to be released...only to hit the button on monday or so. Our fates have already been decided.

      Does anyone know how a typical success letter is worded. Will they rigmarole a bit before hitting the nail on the head?

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      GF.SOC.once again 4 months ago

      Whether my proposal is in or not this time (it is my second attempt), I will still be hugely disappointed by the way the most prestigious postdoc grant works and the randomness of the success. Petty concerns (e.g. gantt chart, project monitoring) can have greater impact than the research question, scientific significance, or the training. A lot of weaknesses the reviewers point out just reflect the fact that they do not come from the specific field. Seriously, EU?

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      Soc- gr uk 4 months ago

      I have it too. Dont think it means anything

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      Mark 4 months ago

      @everyone

      I noticed GAP xxxxxx a long time ago and I suppose that everyone has it.

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      MSCAIF 4 months ago

      I could see this in mine too. Hope it is same for all. It seems new add on. Let us pray for the best.

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      Grant agreement preparation + your ID proposal?

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      zyx 4 months ago

      @AS: Yes. It does not mean anything.

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      4 months ago

      Not sure what that means.

      I click communication center and there is nothing there except for "eu registered the proposal on..."

      There's a pull down menu to the right of "process/date/all" and in that it says GAP-xxxxxx.

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      MTS 4 months ago

      Same for me too AS ;-)

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      AS 4 months ago

      I have noticed (GAP-xxxxxx)

      Go to MY PROPOSAL ---click FO (Follow up) -- click communication center---then click ordered by process. There you could see ‘Proposal Management & Grant Preparation (GAP-xxxxxx)’. My intention is ‘GAP-xxxxxx’. Is everybody has ‘GAP-xxxxxx’?

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      Lorenzo 4 months ago

      Dear all,

      thank you very much for all the information you shared.

      Good luck everyone!

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      Cy 4 months ago

      @ Tamas. You're right. However it cannot be denied that footing one's bills and meeting some expectations is not too much to ask as a phd holder. In many societies, people expect you to live an above average life. Yet these days, one sees that it is almost abouy jumping from one fellowship to another and acceptance rate increasingly thining down. Not many teaching positions out there, papers are difficult to be published...etc. In all this, it is easy to get jaded..lose hope, etc. In fact, after a while in academia...you lose the opportunity of seeking jobs in the corporate world as they emphasize on non academic, practical/work experience. Meanwhile, those without phds but with high work experience can easily be integrated into academia. As you can see..in this MSCA...4years of research experience with masters was deemed equal to phd. This is one of the stuffs that often generate dissatisfaction and regrets amongst phds.

      Thanks for your contribution and good luck next week.

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      @ Cy & Tamas

      I come from one of the former Yugoslav countries. The job market broke down after the crisis. We have about 10% registered unemployment rate (+unregistered it may be as high as 15%) and about 20% poverty risk rate. The distribution of salaries is skewed towards minimum wage regardless of the education (agency work, temporary contracts, soaring self-employment etc.). Some of my peers with university degrees work manual, assembly-line jobs. Life sciences PhDs at least get sucked into pharmaceutical and related industry. Personally I'm no worse off with a PhD than I would be without it, but in general STEM PhDs are better off than the rest. This Marie Curie fellowship would be a dream come true.

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      Tamas 4 months ago

      @Cy

      I think that having a PhD and getting a postdoc grant is not about money. It is clear (at least in engineering) that you get higher salary pretty much anywhere else than research. Even with a Masters. Sometimes even with a Bachelors.

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      Cy 4 months ago

      I learned the 4650 eur living allowance is gross and subject to taxes. If you apply 40 percent tax as in the UK..you see that you barely dont have much left. I wish the stipend wasnt taxable. The fellowship should let the fellows save some money to enable them figure their life a bit afterwards. But this is only a dream.

      Does anyone here regret doing a phd? Sometimes one is compelled to regret..we are here hunting for a 5k fellowship when some colleagues with masters only are raking in bigger cash in their corporate steady jobs.

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      trying hard 4 months ago

      I guess among all.. social sciences is the most competitive with a high passing mark. Good luck all. By the way, will Brexit affect the budget allocation too?

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      Cec 4 months ago

      I wanted to thank you guys for lots of interesting informations, and for making me smile in a very tense period... I am also waiting and refreshing the website every 2 hours. And I am also not sure I will survive to the weekend :-).

      Good luck everyone, and please, continue to discuss/write - it helps!

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      Leakey 4 months ago

      DWK, thanks

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      123 4 months ago

      Guys, let me conjecture the date to be 23 or 24 based on the following message,

      "Due to maintenance activities Participant Portal services may be unavailable for short periods of time during Sunday, 22nd of January, between 10:00 and 18:00 (CET).

      We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. "

      1. I didn't see all the "Participant Portal services" being unavailable for such a long time-window, especially never for "submission" as well. They use to say that "submission" will not be affected.

      2. Eight hour working (even though they claim to occupy short periods in between) window on Sunday really means that its urgent !

      so be ready :)

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      RS 4 months ago

      who will not survive to the week-end?

      Good luck guys!

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Leakey

      In case of 2014 call, the result was announced on 5 Feb 2015.

      Last year, it was 22 Jan.

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      IF-SOC 4 months ago

      seem like SOC stream going to get higher passing mark to get the fund and indeed competitive.

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      cy 4 months ago

      I just noticed the website will be under maintenance on sunday - there have been series of maintenance these days and i guess they are getting ready for next week release. I saw some where that last year success rate was 17percent. So about 1/6 or so in general; the odds are really high. I have the strong feeling that 23rd or 25 will be the day. I dont know how to endure this weekend as i'm practically refreshing the portal every minute. I hate to wait for things especially now that my brain is already treating it as though i will get it. I cant imagine the pain that this will cause in the event it comes negative. i come here to read and comment because it helps me to vent and also get consoled by your comments. Good luck guys!

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      sven 4 months ago

      Did anyone of you contacted your NCP in order to to know the results date? Would they give it if asked?

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      DWK 4 months ago

      @Helen

      The following is what I got from NCP, last year.

      ​Panel, ​Retained List, Reserve List, and Success Rate (%)

      - European Fellowships

      ​CHE ​90.8 ​89.4 14

      ​ECO ​89.8 87 14.1

      ​ENG ​90.6 89.4 ​14.1

      ​ENV 91.2 90.4 14.1

      ​LIF 92.4 91.4 14.1

      ​MAT 91 90 13.8

      ​PHY 91.2 90.4 ​14.2

      ​SOC 92.2 90.8 14.3

      ​CAR 91.2 90 13.8

      ​RI 92.2 91 14.6

      - Global Fellowships

      ​CHE 94 92.6 10.3

      ​ECO 94 89.4 13.6

      ​ENG ​93.8 92.8 10.8

      ​ENV ​93.6 92.6 10.8

      ​LIF ​93.8 92.6 11.1

      ​MAT 91.6 90.8 10

      ​PHY 93.4 92.4 10.6

      ​SOC ​93.6 93 11.2

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      123 4 months ago

      Hey guys, is there a FAQ for 2017 similar to what is at

      http://mariecurieactions.blogspot.it/2016/01/if-20...

      the way it is written "A letter and the Evaluation Summary Report of the call MSCA-IF-2015 will be sent out from the 22nd of January 2016 on to the coordinators", it appears this type of FAQ was available prior to the result announcements ! any idea ??

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      xyz 4 months ago

      Does anybody know the NCP contact in Spain ? or any news ?

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      Helen 4 months ago

      What was roughly the success rate last year? Does anyone know? 1/10? I suppose it also varies depending on the panel, i.e. CAR, RI etc. Are there any (official or unofficial) data available?

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      @ ENV

      But you can support it with simple maths ;)

      2016: Feb 11th - official deadline; Jan 18th - the day when the results announcement date was known; Jan 22nd - results out

      2017: official deadline Feb 14th, which is 11th + 3 days; 18th + 3 would be 21st, but that's Saturday, so probably the announcement date will be known on Jan 23rd and the results will be out on Jan 25th or 26th

      @ xyz: True, this chat is saving my sanity. Thank you all, guys!

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      ENV 4 months ago

      Good luck to everyone!

      I expect the results after 22 for some reason...

      I can't support this with statistical analysis though

      ; )

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      Cy 4 months ago

      Did you guys notice that their website was on maintenance since today. It could be that they are doing in in preparation to release the results either tomorrow or early next week. We are almost in 20th. Last year it was 22 jan. Fingers crossed folks..soon we will know our fate. It is difficult to wait..cant concentrate anymore.

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      xo 4 months ago

      The grades decrease after redress almost always. They do not want to allocate more money or take the grant out of the hands of anybody.

      Last year the results were available today. Any news from the NCPs or Brussels?

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      ENV-IF 4 months ago

      Is here anyone with experience about redress?

      Does the grade increase or decrease usually after redress?

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      xyz 4 months ago

      Keep discussing guys. its hard waiting silently :)

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      I think... After evaluation the reviewers list might be available

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      @ 123 & Leakey

      I haven't seen the 2016 reviewers list yet. If it's not on the official webpage, then I doubt we can access it from somewhere else.

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      Leakey 4 months ago

      Hi guys, Is the current list of referees published elsewhere?

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      Chy 4 months ago

      Victoria GM: "when are you going to anounce the funded for IF 2016? Thank you"

      Like · Reply · January 16 at 7:19pm

      Marie Skłodowska-Curie Actions

      Marie Skłodowska-Curie Actions: "Hi Victoria, there is no official release date, but you can expect to find out about it towards the end of January".

      The above were the conversations i saw on MSCA facebook page. Guess ENV-IF is right, they may likely release the results as from 23 January. I have never been more impatient or expectant for anything as this. Soon we will know whether we shall drink wine or vodka. Fingers crossed, and i wish you all the very best.

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      ENV-IF 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM

      Valentine's Day is the official date for the results release.

      Usually though, the results are being released earlier (Late January or early February).

      I expect them to be released January 25 (+/- 3).

      Good luck!

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      xo 4 months ago

      @EDM VDM The MSCA commissioner has already stated that results will be available by the end of this month:

      http://www.h2020.md/en/marie-sklodowska-curie-acti...

      So that either the greek NCP is not very well informed or most probably he/she just wanted to avoid being called more times.

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      123 4 months ago

      @Palette Seyens

      can you plz send me the link of reviewer list-2016 ? it doesn't appear to be there. many thanks !

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      EDM VDM 4 months ago

      I come from Greece, and I've just called the NCP here in Greece and they told me that the results will be released at 14 February. Could anyone confirm this?Has anybody else contacted NCP?

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      Curious 4 months ago

      Can anybody get me the link that "we can join within one year of grant assignment (Marie-curie IF)"

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      Tirpitz 4 months ago

      It used to be 30 min. Till last year there was a special week in Nov in Brussels for these consensus meetings (with a complicated schedule due to permutations) :-), from last year on they do it online.

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      The list of reviewers is public (http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/d... you can find the last year's here: http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/data/ref...

      The Excel says there were 1801 of them last year, so you can roughly divide your estimates by 2. My colleague is a reviewer for the SME Instrument and I can tell you you're not far from the truth, but it's paid well. :) I don't know how long the consensus meetings last, but these guys claim they work: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC44883...

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      Actually, I really want to know how this so-called "consensus meeting" is done. Let's do a bit maths here, 9000 proposals, and according to the rule book, each proposal should be assessed by 3 independent reviewers, assuming the EC managed to find 1000 reviewers willing to participate, that will give each reviewer 27 proposals to read in a very short period of time. Put aside this huge workload, and only talk about consensus meeting, this literally means 27 consensus meetings for each reviewer, and each time, he/she will have to meet another two reviewers in order to reach consensus. This sounds a lot to me, and I can imagine these reviewers will only want to get it over with and won't pay much attention to the details, and this so-called consensus meeting probably only last 5 mins for each proposal, and all they do is to make sure they didn't calculate the scores wrong.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      To be honest, I found this 10% success rate is bit misleading. It varies a lot across different disciplines. I am not talking about the broad panels here, but rather more specific areas that we work in. In each respective field, the success rate can range from very high to near zero. In the specific area that I work in, last time someone was awarded the Fellowship was back in 2008. Yes, I did my research by digging into their funded project database. Apparently to many reviewers, my area is simply not worth funding.

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      At least there is a consensus meeting among the reviewers of our proposals. We're still better off than companies that apply for the SME Instrument. There you have 4 reviewers, the highest and the lowest grade are removed and the remaining two are averaged. Success rate at the autumn SME instrument call was about 3 %, for MSCA it's still more than 10 %. Not that I'm particularly comforted by these facts, but it could be worse.

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      xa 4 months ago

      At these dates last year they had already released a note with the exact dates of the communication of the results. We should try to contact the NCP to ask what is going on this year.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      I also feel its more like winning a lottery. When think about it, it has to be like this. Nearly 9000 proposals this year, imagine the number of reviewers they will need, and how many proposals each reviewer will have to read. Across different reviewers, they will have different standards, some being tougher than the others, and some being more generous. And even for the same reviewer, he/she might be in a better mood today than yesterday, so the proposals he/she reviewed yesterday will not be so lucky.

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      123 4 months ago

      first time 85.4, second 89.2 and so not very excited for the third time. its too random guys.... unfortunately (or fortunately for those who get :)) its just a lottery process... for 3 yrs exp. after phd with 30 good publications summing around 150 impact factor, one reviewer find my CV "good but not excellent"!

      anyways... Good luck to all !

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      Has somebody called to NCP to ask about the day?

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      IF-SOC 4 months ago

      hi @francif Humanities is under IF-SOC group when apply.

      Anyone know how many projects the EC funded for SOC last year? and how was the success rate?

      Good luck everyone!

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      Curious13 4 months ago

      I made an observation and founded that the threshold is increasing every year and the highest is Social Science (SOC) stream with last year % around 92.6. Will it be above 93% this year? There are similar patterns for other streams as well.

      Apart from an interesting project proposal, will the panels take count of the nationality as well? For example, candidate from developed vs developing countries; country of the highest qualification obtained by candidate; experiences of research/work in other countries; etc?

      As a junior researcher who just completed phd, will there be any chance to secure the fund as I believe many of applicants are post-doct, professors, senior position who are well experienced? But it's also tricky when I search on the internet for those had got the fund come from candidate who had no phd but had more than 4 years experiences, some had less publications,.. and surprisingly those did not make it are post doct, and some has publication in high impact journals.. All this make me wonder how random the process is...

      I wish all the best everyone! :)

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      Don't worry be happy 4 months ago

      humanities is a scientific field too.

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      francif 4 months ago

      hi guys...I am looking for info on behalf of my boyfriend...did you all apply for a scientific field or someone for humanities? good luck...:-)

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      @Applicant IIF 201

      We are doomed, hope it's not too late to consider alternatives. The scientific world is too crowded right now.

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      Applicant IIF 201 4 months ago

      @Faufou

      After Ph.D we all realized that, the future is not bright due to a very low (negligible) employment rate of further opportunities.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      @Applicant IIF 201

      Exactly, imagine the pressure for lecturers and professors to secure funding. Here we have a senior lecturers being sacked because of the "lack of funding he received". The universities here don't usually fire academics, but now everything changes and no one is safe anymore.

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      Applicant IIF 201 4 months ago

      @Faufou

      Same situation here. All of my colleagues (including me) are struggling to get funding for further research (post-doc and other research positions).

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      1st time 86, 2nd 88. As everyone says, the whole process is indeed very random. Just from my previous evaluation reports, I can tell the reviewers prob only spent 30 mins on my proposal. My biggest disadvantage is that my area is far away from mainstream research, and looks extremely "unsexy". Hard to get attention from the reviewers totally outside my area.

      To be honest, I am not even sure whether it is a good idea to prolong my postdoc journey for another two years. I just want to get out of this hopeless scientific world. Just look at my own supervisors and colleagues, all struggle to get funding with little luck under this economy. I don't think I will do better than them if I am lucky enough to become an academic. Really don't want to spend the rest of my life worrying about my next grant.

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      Vim 4 months ago

      So, one can relax for atleast a week or two ...

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      I called my NCP today. She told me, she may have the results by 25th .

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      3rd time for me as well... 1st 78, 2nd 91.2 (after redress 86.9)

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      IF-ENV reserve 4 months ago

      First time 78% second time 91% and reserve list...Hope third time will not be less that the previous one but you never know if the reviewers change...

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      good luck 4 months ago

      @Z

      It seems that there are different reviewers every year which is not good...Is like having a minor revision on a journal and then they change your reviewers.

      Good luck to everyone!

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      Don't worry be happy 4 months ago

      @Z

      In my first attempt I had low score (71%), now it's my second time.

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      4 months ago

      @Don't worry be happy:

      What score did you get the 1st and 2nd time? Did it go up?

      From the comments, it seems that people lost points after improving their proposals - showing that it's pretty random.

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      Dont' worry be Happy 4 months ago

      @Faufou many thanks and third time lucky.

      It's my second time and I'm worring about if I improved my proposal following reviewers suggestions or not...

      Random process is comming!

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      Also from last year, 4 days before announcing the outcome, they provided an update in the "call updates" section, you should be able to find it when you click the call name. For this year, the latest update is that they received nearly 9000 proposals. Below is the update info from last year, I guess they will do the same this year before the big day:

      Call updates:

      18 January 2016 10:40

      Indicative timetable:

      - An indicative date for informing the applicants about the outcome of the evaluation is on Friday the 22nd of January 2016. Please note that due to the very high number of applicants to be informed this process may take 2 to 3 days.

      - Signing of grant agreements for proposals proposed for funding: within 3 months from the date of informing the applicant

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      RTLIF 4 months ago

      @Faufou many thanks for the valuable information

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      Also I forgot to mention that last year before they announced the outcome, their website also underwent a major update/maintenance to get ready for the big day. When that day comes, you will first find two files in your specific document folder in participant portal (a letter informing the outcome and the final assessment report). And few hours later, you will receive an email from them informing you that the report and letter are available to download from the portal. So if you are very eager to know the outcome, the best way is to keep checking the portal.

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      Faufou 4 months ago

      This round will be my third and last attempt, and based on my previous experience, they usually announce the outcome one or two weeks before the "official" deadline (exactly 6 months after the submission deadline). Take last year for example, the submission deadline was Sept. 11 2015, so the announcement deadline shown in the timeline bar was Feb. 11 2016. But the actual announcement was made on Jan. 22 2016, few weeks earlier. I would expect the same for this year. This also explains why we all see this Feb. 14 2017 deadline showing on our timeline, it's only because this is the date exactly 6 months after the submission deadline. But in reality, they will be more likely announce the outcome before this supposedly "official" deadline

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      Lordx 4 months ago

      Same here. It's updating system

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      Mark 4 months ago

      the same on my profile

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      Tamas 4 months ago

      @ENV-GF

      FO link is down for me too, but there are a couple of warnings that the grant management services might not be accessible today and tomorrow.

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      ENV-GF 4 months ago

      I noticed that the my FO link has been down. Anybody else?

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      DWK 4 months ago

      Don't waste your time finding a clue to the result in the Participant Portal, guys. I already tried to find it January 2016, and I also found some noticeable changes like someone posted here, such as red ribbon and 'stage 2'. After the result was released, I realised that what I did was nothing. The changes in the portal were just caused by system maintenance.

      In due time, the results will be released per each sector separately. At this time, the result letter will be shown in the portal, before being sent through email. So, guys, in the portal just check whether the letter is released or not, instead finding any clue.

      Good luck everybody!

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      Palette Seyens 4 months ago

      My friend (whom I've been pestering with my nervousness for a while) has just sent me a joke he made: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1831111/breaki...

      I hope you'll have a good laugh. :)

      And @ Mark & IF-lif: Big thanks for this info!

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      Mark 4 months ago

      Yes, the red ribbon has appeared in September, a few days after submission. I think it does not mean anything, because, I have red ribbon at my last year rejected proposal.

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      GF IT 4 months ago

      @IF-SOC, there was the same statement for Monday 9th,

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      MSCAIF 4 months ago

      @ Palette Seyens

      Same here.

      Thanks

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