Dean Traylor is a freelance writer and teacher who writes about various subjects, including education and creative writing.
Fact or Fiction?
Sometimes, the best way to debunk a story is to read it. Case in point: The story about the discovery of ancient pyramids in Antarctica. Recently, this tale of intrepid explorers discovering a series of man-made structures on a continent that has been too harsh to support sustainable human life for millions of years went viral over the Internet.
The story was picked up by many news outlets and blogs throughout the world and has made its way as a meme on Facebook and other social media sites. By all accounts, this story would sound like the greatest archeological discovery of a lifetime.
However, nearly everything about this article, including the pictures and descriptions of the “explorers” hint that this was merely a hoax. Even the news outlets that ran with the story are suspect. Whatever the case may be, the story is its own undoing.
The only "real" proof of the pyramids comes from a series of photographs supposedly taken during the expedition. Several show mountains with seemingly smooth edges partially covered in snow. Others show a conical-shaped mound of snow near the coast. Finally, there appears to be an icy pyramid on a frozen plain.
The photos are not exactly compelling. The giant “pyramids” with clean edges are clearly mountains. In fact, these mountains look like any mountain range existing in extremely cold climates. The smooth edges and sides are more likely the result of natural erosion and the photographer's proximity to the mountain when the shot was taken.
The icy cone near the coast is impressive and seems like humans made it. Then again, it’s near the coast, and that portion of its structure appears to be the result of wind, sea, or both (Update: The photo in question was actually cropped from an original photo. It wasn't the subject of the original photo. See caption for the actual person who took it)
The “snow pyramid” on the plain (also near the coast) is the least compelling. It suspiciously looks like it was photo-shopped (then again, looks can be deceiving). Also, it appears small in scale and closely resembles a pile of plowed snow (remember, there are bases with runways that need to be cleared down there).
There are several clues to the article’s authenticity. Part of the problem is its length. A story about a new, earth-shattering, history-changing discovery is relatively short (at least the one presented by In Serbia News was minuscule). Recently, an article about the discovery of new species in Australia's “lost world” garnered a lengthy write-up.
The story is not new, either. It appears that variations of the story have been circulating on the web for nearly a decade. While there are some slight variations, the story hasn’t changed much. Most sites have added opinions rather than updates. In fact, the “new” version of the article has the same lead as its original publication. The original writer—whoever that might be—claimed in the lead that the search was ongoing and that eight researchers were involved. No names are given to the explorers.
This leads to another flaw in the pyramid story. The websites and blogs that chose to print it didn’t bother to validate the story. It appears nobody involved in the expedition was contacted. Any sense of sourcing done in the article was to mention an obscure website known for printing pseudo-scientific-themed articles (no link available). It’s obvious that many sites merely searched the web, found the story, and placed it on their sites. This is not exactly investigative journalism at its finest (that is, if you dare to give it that distinction).
The News Outlets
Most of the news outlets are found on the Internet. Many of them have posted questionable stories in the past. One such website reporting on this matter is Before It’s News.com. This site was once the darling of citizen journalism. Its platform allowed anyone to post a newsworthy article.
Over the years, Before It’s News has been taken over by conspiracy theorists, cranks, and ideologists who have written articles about such ground-breaking stuff as secret lunar bases, alien infiltration, and shadowy government activities.
When this story was “reported” on their site in late 2012, it took on a whole new dimension. The result was, shall we say, unique. On top of eight unnamed explorers from America and Europe discovering the pyramids, there were hints of hidden Nazi bases and remnants of the lost continent of Atlantis.
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The other sites are not better, either. Many will put a political stance to it, while others will run with pseudo-scientific slants. Many centers around the theme of the lost continent of Atlantis. It’s not surprising to see some sites adding the line “the government doesn’t want you to know this . . . ”
Aliens vs. Predator
Interestingly enough, this story’s origin may not have anything to do with Nazis, Atlantis or government cover-ups. Instead, it’s Hollywood. To be precise, a movie that pitted two iconic space monsters against one another.
According to a trailer of Alien vs. Predator (based on the movie and the Dark Horse Comics series), a group of explorers uncovers an ancient pyramid in Antarctica. To make a long story short, the aliens and predators battle one another inside it while the humans try to stay out of harm’s way.
Is it a coincidence? The answer is most likely no. The story is just a myth kept alive by the nature of sensationalistic websites on the Internet. Yet, its flaws are so glaring that nearly anyone reading it can spot them. Some websites have debunked it; however, as long as some use it as affirmation for their beliefs in “alternative news” of the paranormal, conspiracies, or other bizarre matters, this story will not meet the cold and frozen death that it deserves.
Update 2016: Possible Explanation from Nature
It appears the pyramids are not a mystery, after all. For years, climbers heading to Antarctica's largest peak, Vinsen Massif, have passed by one of these supposed pyramids. Even a National Geographic photographer snapped a few pictures of it from the peak of Vinsen Massif.
Other photos and videos on the Internet show climbers ascending this peak, while the pyramid can be seen in the background. And, by all appearance, no one is really paying much attention to it. There's a reason.
The "pyramid" may well be a natural formation known as nunatak. These are mountain peaks that jut up above massive glaciers. They are found throughout Antarctica and Greenland. These formations were believed to be formed by years of erosion caused by the shifting glaciers.
Below is a video that examines the photos and explains these "pyramids". Warning: the grammar can be confusing, but the creator(s) behind the video are spot on in their analysis.
Update: Another Viral Article Claims Google Earth Has the Definitive Images
Just when the Antarctica Pyramid was starting to fade into obscurity, another article on the matter went viral. This time, a name—as well as coordinates—was given. Vicente Fuentes, a Spanish paranormal investigator who writes for Ufotopia.com, posted an image of a supposed pyramid and a Spanish language documentary on the topic in mid-March 2016. Nearly every paranormal blog and internet fringe publicationsuch as Before-Its-News.com—published duplicate articles.
Fuentes (described as a “vivid researcher”) claimed that Google Earth captured evidence of a pyramid in Antarctica. And, for good measure, he placed the satellite image side-by-side with another satellite image of a pyramid in Egypt. Also, he gave the coordinates that anyone could plug in for Google Earth (79°58'39.25"S 81°57'32.21"W)
Many true believers have touted this as being the best evidence to date. They claimed that it was impossible for mountain ridges and peaks to be nearly perfect in symmetry.
However, a closer look reveals that the Antarctic pyramid—possibly a mountain peak known as Schatz Ridge (a better view is the lead photo used for this article)—is not as perfect as many pyramid believers suggest. There appears to be a canyon on one side. Also, as mentioned, this particular ridge is located near a popular mountain routinely used by mountain climbers (who probably didn’t give it much thought about it being anything more than a glacier horn or nunatak).
Additionally, the photo from Fuentes appears to be cropped. The side-by-side image of a real pyramid may trick some viewers into believing they’re seeing two similar structures—when in fact, one is a huge mountain that’s mostly buried under ice (and clearly connected to a half-buried ridge with two other peaks), and the other is a man-made structure that’s less than a thousand feet high.
And what’s the story with Fuentes? He claims to have a degree in Industrial Engineering (with an emphasis on chemicals) and mathematics and has an interest in things “that nobody dares to talk about.” He has written numerous articles on the paranormal, including one about a “portal” he claimed to have uncovered in Antarctica (which sounds like the centuries-old debunked Symmes Hole).
Update 2017: Fossils Near One of the “Pyramids”
Back in November 2016, CBS News ran a story about the Internet stories about the Antarctic Pyramid. In the report (available on the Internet), a professor of Earth system science at UC Irvine had been contacted by the Internet science news outlet, Live Science.
Eric Rignot wrote in an e-mail that an unnamed pyramid-shaped peak within the Ellsworth Mountain ranges was the result of nature.
“This is just a mountain that looks like a pyramid.” He wrote.
He further stated: “Pyramid shapes are not impossible—many peaks partially look like pyramids, but they only have one to two faces like that, rarely four.”
Still, the article added something that opens up another interesting—and possibly more plausible – find in the region. In an area within the range known as Heritage Range, fossils from the Cambrian period have been found. Most of them are trilobites that lived more than 500 million years ago and were confirmed by a 1972 USGS (United States Geological Society) report on the region.
Update: New Video with Old Information (2018)
Recently, a pro-Antarctic Pyramid Theory documentary entitled The Pyramid of Antarctica Conspiracy surfaced on YouTube. The video was made sometime around 2017 and pushed the concept that pyramids were discovered in Antarctica. However, upon further scrutiny, the video seemed to retread old information from the original article on the topic with a few details from actual studies.
It stated that an international group of scientists (again, the names of the scientists were not given) discovered the pyramids. This time, the documentary claimed that this discovery came in 2016 and that they “found evidence of a lost civilization.”
The narrator of the documentary also stated, “they found three four-sided pyramids protruding through the tundra.” This was a bizarre statement, considering that the original accounts placed the pyramids jutting out from deep glaciers instead of existing in a region often characterized as a dry, barren land with little or no vegetation (Antarctic tundra are not the same type found in the northern hemisphere). The documentary also touched upon the Google Earth findings and the image from it that has become the hallmark of this conspiracy theory.
The seven-minute video data mined actual scientific research of the continent with conspiratorial sources to bolster its claim that the pyramid exists. And, of course, it made the argument that Antarctica was the lost city/state of Atlantis.
Possibly the most striking of all is not so much that more information was added to this theory. It’s that the claims from the original article are still alive and well, despite its glaring flaws.
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Questions & Answers
Question: Has anyone actually gone to the location of the "Pyramid" of Antarctica and investigated?
Answer: One of the supposed pyramids has been a destination for extreme mountain climbing.
© 2013 Dean Traylor
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on September 10, 2019:
Joy Alyne Harbour, the map you're probably referring to is the Piri Reis Map of 1513. It's accurate for the time it was created but it was created with the assumption that the western continents stretched all the way down to what is now Antarctica. Much of that part of the map was pure conjecture. Today, the map is inaccurate. As for Antarctica being under ice? At one point it wasn't....millions of years ago and well before humans existed (or were able to migrate to the place). Also, that's way before they had the know-how to build pyramids.
Joy Alyne Harbour on September 10, 2019:
@Dean Traylor ..
There are pyramids on every continent on earth ..
Why would Antarctica be any different?
I dont agree that Antarctica has been covered by snow and ice for millions of years, based on the ancient maps that show the Antarctica coastline having mountains and trees, and rivers ..
How can the ancient maps be wrong ?
zeek on April 01, 2019:
strangelly, if you look close enought, 34.4km from the site of the potential pyramid (or not :) , so far no scientific proof from either side of the theory, thanks schrodinger cat) you can find a base called "Union glacier blue-ice runaway SCGC", composed of at least 10 buildings. So given the proximitty to the site why no scientific expedition have been organized yet to finally bring an answer based on solid facts ? i not even going to bring up the strange proximitty with the site ;)
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on February 04, 2019:
Con, are you saying there's plenty of evidence that humans built 4 sided pyramids, generally speaking or specifically on Antarctica? If generally, then yes, that's true. But if you're saying on Antarctica, no the answer is no. Simply put, no compelling evidence exist...also, I mentioned that the photos of the supposed pyramids were cropped and/or taken from afar. Also, the three "pyramids" are not next to each other, vary in size, and two are most likely snow drifts piled or covering large rock formation. In addition the other may is mountain-sized (because it is a mountain) and has been explored, too. Nature works in mysterious ways.
Con on February 04, 2019:
There has NEVER been ANY evidence of nature producing a perfect four sided pyramid anywhere. There is however plenty of evidence to suggest that humans have built 4 sided pyramids successfully in the past. It is not impossible for nature to produce a perfect 4 sided pyramid, but it is unlikely. Particularly 3 of them. In the same area.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on January 30, 2019:
Anonymous, I think what you are forgetting is that the pyramid stuff was based on a bogus story from a defunct website known for for being despeputable. Even scientist will tell you there's really no need to go beyond that.
Anonymous on January 30, 2019:
Just thought I'd point out the picture saying something about if you squint you see a pyramid is funny, when I squint it looked more like a mountain and when I didn't looked more like a pyramid. Plus I am pretty sure the actual application of science is to have an open mind to all possibilities and then apply actual research and evidence to make the most possible theory an accepted fact by the rest of the scientific community. We could prove or disprove this thing by doing a controlled melt and seeing what is under that snow and ice.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on November 19, 2018:
libslayer (boy, I can't get over that name...it speaks volumes - smh), the Buzz Aldrin thing was fake news. There's no need to even debate that.
And don't worry, this 48 year old kid will not sit down. Also, I'll keep an eye you, too.
btw, it's Los Angeles, not Las.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on November 16, 2018:
An update has been added to this story. Check out the new information.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on September 07, 2018:
There's some factors to consider when looking at this "pyramid." The claims, including the Google Earth, are being made by one person with questionable credentials (As I mentioned in an update section to this article). Also, there's a phenomenon that playS a huge role in the Google Earth claim; it's called Pareidolia. This is the phenomenon of recognizing patterns, shapes, and familiar objects in a vague and sometimes random stimulus. Often the mind can play tricks on you when you look at photos. Sometimes, lighting, an unfocused len, or forced perspectives (such as the action of the individual who placed the Pyramid of Giza photo next to the Google Earth image of the mountain peak in Antarctica). Pareidolia is responsible for the "Face on Mars" belief or Happy Face Crater on the moon. In both cases, the images were either taken at a particular angle or were out of focus.
DannyBanner on September 07, 2018:
It's curious that the antarctic formation at 79°58'39.25"S 81°57'32.21"W seems to mirror almost perfectly with the Great Pyramid of Giza in regards to both its size and alignment as well as its near exact diagonal shift in longitude and latitude across the globe to coordinates 29°58'47"N 31°08'02"E. Of course these are all determinations based on using google earth so an accuracy question comes into play as well. Regardless, these three shared characteristics, in my opinion, seem unlikely to have occured by mere coincidence. So I think there may be a possibility of something actually to this claim, however ridiculous that may sound to some. Is it really such a bad thing to have an open mind to such possibilities?
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on July 23, 2018:
You need to read the article. It's a critique of a viral article that was vague and easy to dissect. Also, I've gone over with those that make the fallacy of "it's just an opinion." (Even wrote an article about it ). So, if you have compelling facts that the pyramid exist (since it appears you believe in it) post your proof. No Google Earth coordinates; those have been debunked, too. If you don't have anything, then don't bother responding. Thank you.
Me on July 23, 2018:
One simple question. Have you been to the site. If not you know no more than anyone else who has not been there. You are no more qualified to comment on the subject then anyone else. You are stating your beliefs not facts.
marcus on June 05, 2018:
there are many religious cooks on you tube who claim pre flood giants built the so called pyramids to escape the flood and that many of them are now giant demons....HA...doesnt get any more nonreal then that.
Albert ens-tine on April 25, 2018:
Hey dean you are a smart person can we hang out
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on February 15, 2018:
Oak, as I usually tell people, if you don't have facts to support your complaint, then don't bother complaining. Thus, you may need to take your own advice and stop tossing those rocks...or tin-foil...whatever you were trying to say...
oak1971 on February 15, 2018:
Instead of demonizing, and calling folks nuts, present some factual evidence. Otherwise, you are guilty of the same tin foil glass house rock tossing you accuse others of.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on January 19, 2018:
I don't know where to begin with that rant. So I will just ask you a few questions to clarify what you are trying to say.
1. How is this article blatantly biased?
2. What "agenda" are you referring to?
3. Also, how is an obviously fake news article (that this piece was about) is waking people up to the truth when it was extremely fallible?
4. What is the Pyrimid of the Chosen (your spelling not mine)?
5. What does 9-11 have to do with this?
6. What does the story of the Pope and John Kerry have anything to do with this?
7. Are you even serious or are you pulling off a PRATT just to yank my chains?
8. Are you the unnamed author of the original story of the "discovery" and trying to discredit my critique?
9. You stated that you've learned that people try to rewrite reality they are usually covering something up...what do you think is being covered up?
10. What does a "satanic ceremony" at Bohemian Grove (isn't that something concocted by Alex Jones) have to do with story?
11. It is "truth" to you?
12. Do you have a clue what confirmation bias is? (Here's a hint, you're doing it)
In the past I've answered your type of questions. I've also written a couple of article about the bizarre screeds I've received on this article. Many of you made the claim I was lying or was part of some cabal. Here's a thought....prove it, seriously. If you have some compelling information that the pyramids are true, then prove it. Otherwise, don't respond until you have something concrete.
Over the years since I wrote this article (and throughout all the updates), I've had many people like you write these bizarre screeds
JSimmons602 on January 19, 2018:
So, the Pope, John (creepy) Kerry, Buzz Aldrine, and a bunch of world leaders just wanted to visit the subzero, Antarctic wastelands to do what? Make snow angels? Maybe have the world's greatest snowball fight? Oh no, wait a tic, I've got it!!! This mountain that looks exactly like a pyramid is actually the world's greatest bunny slope!!! Yeah, that's gotta be it!! This article is so blatantly biased, and agenda driven that's it's not even funny. I've learned that when people try to rewrite reality, they are usually covering something up. It is a pyramid, and it is called "The Pyrimid of the Chosen". You can try to make people that see the truth look crazy all you want, but people are starting to wake up to the lies of the publishers, and their minion journalists that have done nothing but try and control the social, and political narrative for the past century or more. Hopefully your smear campaign of an article falls on nothing but deaf ears. "Owlcation"?? Seriously??? Don't the creeps that have the satanic ceremonies out in Bohemian Grove burn "fake child effigies" to their horned owl god Molech every spring?? Or have you written that story off as the babbelings of an insane man to? Your probably nothing more than a disinformation journal to decieve the few subscribers you have. Sad... I bet you still stick to the mainstream media version of 9/11 to don't you? Very sad
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on January 08, 2018:
I've written an article on Ancient Aliens. I'm haven't seen that particular episode; however, knowing the show I would be very skeptical of they have to say.
When it comes to erosion, there are several factors such ice, wind, water, sun, etc... and it's possible to happne on four sides.
Jay Carter on January 08, 2018:
I can honestly believe both stances on this topic. My question pertains to the "pyramid" that has 4 distinct sides to it. Why is that the only mountain peak that has erosion on all 4 sides? The other peaks only seem to be eroding on 2 of the sides, why the difference? I had seen this as a ancient aliens episode and they present a more compelling reasoning. Can you add any further insight? Ancient Aliens S11 E01 Pyramids of Antarctica
Alex on November 19, 2017:
Someone knows why on google earth the images at the top right of the pyramid never downloads at same scale ?
Phil Janes from Washington Coast on November 18, 2017:
Correction: I gave the coordinates of a different pyramid. The one at Princess Elizabeth Station is also censored on Google Earth.
Phil Janes from Washington Coast on November 18, 2017:
Pyramid-shaped features do exist. The debate is over what's inside. Are they naturally formed and solid? or constructed by an intelligent race? Do they contain cavities, like the Pyramids of Giza? If hollow, they might not reflect radar normally, which could account for the fact that the feature at Princess Elizabeth Station appears flat and level on Google Earth. More likely, this is just more Google Earth censorship. My installed version of GE now shows zero elevation everywhere; maybe I need to reinstall it. But the online version has mountains everywhere except where that pyramid is... and perhaps other Antarctic pyramids as well.
The pyramid I'm referring to is at
If there's nothing here to see, why is GE hiding it?
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on November 17, 2017:
Nope, the Byrd interview has had a lot of misinterpretation anchored it over the years. I've heard things such as he spot Symmes portal to a hollow earth. Didn't find it nor did mention any real desire to find it. At this point I take the Byrd interview with a grain of salt.
It’s Real on November 17, 2017:
Those pyramids are real. Isn’t there a lot of footage from the 1930’s when Admiral Byrd went to Antarctica.
Angel Lozano on October 18, 2017:
Lets take a trip to Antarctica... I would like to see whats down there... It's late spring at the moment in Antarctica. So we should be fine to explore for a few months. I can see if the federal government can pay for our trip. If this is a pyramid we will have to enter it and see if we find any aliens or secret tools. Hitler was in search for alien form and I believe so is Putin. lol jk jk
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on October 18, 2017:
To Shay Chandler, you need to post something other than a link to a webpage. In fact, it will not be allowed by editors. Please the reason for the webpage and how it relates to this article.
Shay Chandler on October 18, 2017:
For summer alexis on September 14, 2017:
Yeah I've also got some of those air particles in my bedroom in Michigan. Turns out the Earth is completely covered in them, spooky...
Summer Alexsis on August 22, 2017:
Hi Dean. Interesting article. I always like to do my research.
I just thought I'd let you know that while it be very possible that these aren't man-made structures, I thought maybe you'd find it as interesting as I did to learn that particles in the air in Antarctica are the same particles found in tropical climate! Again, this has no evidence that man built 'pyramids' in Antarctica. However it does provide evidence that Antarctica was a tropical climate at one point, which then leads to possible civilization, and so on and so forth.
thanks for the read!
P. Stander on August 16, 2017:
shot for the post Dean, I feel all findings should be well documented and evidence should always be available if someone wants proof. So much fake news going around. That being said most of the world believe in evolution and that's just as fictional as pyramids in Antarctica until evidence is provided :)
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on August 02, 2017:
Bird, can you name the source?
H. Hirsch on July 09, 2017:
Good article, good effort Dean Traylor. Really interesting comments though from, well, who knows, maybe Mr Mega-Alias :).
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on July 07, 2017:
Antarctica has been a frozen continent for millions of years...not thousands. Also, i researched the ancient maps you're alluding, to. . In fact, I wrote an article about one of them. Let's just say they are not as accurate as they were believed to be. At best they matched what was known about the world at the time, but also consisted of some conjectures (that all four corners of the world had land mass to help "balance" the planet) that have been proven to be unrealistic and inaccurate.
You may want to read the first paragraph to realize I'm writing about an article from a defunct website that had little or no evidence to support its findings. The missing details are things such as a name for the expedition, the people involved, and the precise location of the supposed pyramids (which will come later when another site republished this viral article). In other words, the original person who made this claim -- as well as the numerous sites that republished it -- most likely didn't go to the frozen continent.
By the way, mountaineers that have climbed Antarctica's peaks saw nothing unusual about them. Many have seen these types of eroded peaks before in Alaska and Greenland (which I mentioned in an update). They are known to most as glacier horns. Also, as I've mentioned, the photos that accompanied the story were cropped from an original set of photos.
As I've mentioned in the past others, if you have compelling evidence about these (which you claim exist), produce them. But if you're going to go on a rant and only supply me with the usual response that "the government is covering something up," then don't bother to comment on this page.
Sly on July 07, 2017:
Have you gone to Antarctica yourself to debunk this information? There are many more credible sources, organizations and military installations down there examining real evidence that you are carelessly calling a Hoax. Perhaps before you claim the Antarctica piramyds a hoax, you should go there yourself, or at least speak to sources willing to leak verified facts and information from the multitude of top secret operations going on down there. You'll be shocked at what's really been discovered, given a whole different climate on a continent 3 times larger than the United States exists under the ice. Maybe you should research the ancient maps depicting Antarctica before it was covered in ice thousands of years ago, drawn using technology with mathematical precision far exceeding our own.
Maureen68 on June 09, 2017:
When in school years ago, my Professors were positive about many things that today simply are not true. The way I see this, we really do not know what lies on Antarctica, there could be pyramids or not. I do know that this was not a scientific study conducted so really cannot accept your answers as debunking or scientific. Interesting read though.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on May 31, 2017:
Steve, let me reiterate something. This is not about Gobeki Tepe. I'm familiar with it and know it's pushing back the birth of human civilization. It's also raising questions about the reason people came together to form a civilization (the latest I read was religion). But, my article was not about that.
Also, I never mentioned anything about what the ancients knew and didn't. No where in my article did ever mentioned anything that ancient people were incapable of inventing technology we use today. That's not what the article is about. How you got that from my article is a mystery. Also, I never addressed Nazca or the Bagdad battery (btw, the latest theory was that it was used for religious ceremonies).
What this article was about was a suspicious claim about pyramids in Antarctica that went viral over the Internet and social media. The problem has been the source of the story. It's unreliable and sketchy at best. This story was born on the Internet....most likely made up by a person writing for a fake news site that have proliferated the net (and I suspect that person has been commenting on this site under several aliases). Whether there are pyramids in Antarctica or not, this extremely vague article should not be seen as evidence of that.
Steve M. on May 31, 2017:
Dean - hah! You kill me! Again, I asked one simple question. I re-iterate, it's too early to tell on Antartica pyramids, so I'm not a believer yet.
I asked you to give your explanation on something that is not fake news. It's perhaps one (of the many) the greatest discoveries that re-writes history: GOBEKLI TEPE. This is confirmed by experts in their field (I happen to know one that has visited the site), not a journalist. It is 11K years (or perhaps older). According to conventional science, people had no idea how to create a monolithic structure so precise.
Was it Aliens? I'm more of the belief that ancients developed very advanced technology that was lost and perhaps never recovered. Einstein even believed that if you alter gravity, you could make 50 ton boulders literally weightless. Look at the Greeks, they had amazing minds, and invented things that were not re-discovered for 2K years (pulley system, steam engine, vending type machine, etc). Not hard to believe that ancients 10-20K years ago, would not be able to create these amazing technologies. Baghdad Battery, Illuminating devices used inside the pyramids of Egypt (how did they sculpt in the dark - no evidence of any kind of soot, so fire is out). Antikethira mechanism - worlds oldest analog computer)
Perhaps you should keep an open mind. Like perhaps your belief that we are the only advanced race in the universe.
I spent 10 years in Peru and have been to just about everything there (Machu Pichu, Nazca, the Inca trail, which is a feat no one could have done that long ago, mountains were borred thru, sides of mountains literally cut off - Impossible engineering feats, not cropped or faked I saw them. And No, it was not a hallucination).
Sorry, if you misinterpreted my rebuttals as nasty. I'm a 5% believer. I find these ancient feats incredible and have spoken to engineers that cannot rationally explain them. Maybe you should talk to experts before you call it fake news.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on May 30, 2017:
Hey Randy, sorry for not getting to you immediately. You are right, there are a lot people that don't accept this. In fact, I've deleted a couple of responses from these deniers (simply put, if you are going call me name and then try to take some high road that I'm being rude to other rude commentators makes me shake my head). If there's a silver lining, I wrote an article entitled "Just an Opinion....." in which I examined some of the comments I've received on this. I know where they're coming from.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on May 30, 2017:
Steve, name's not Gene, Dude or Man. And, like I said, you don't know what you are talking about when you call someone a skeptic. Read Skeptic Magazine, Skeptic Dictionary, Skeptical Science or Rationalwiki (although it is a typical wiki site that usually has readers contributing to its creation). These may tell you some cold, hard truth that may destroy your perception of the universe, but deal with it. You'll be a better person for it.
I've spent too much time answering these off-topic questions and getting bizarre rants in return. As mentioned, I will only address comments that have something constructive to say about the topic in question. I got tired of the pyramid-power people posting thinly veiled rants.
My advice to you: Stick to the sites that confirm your beliefs and respect that some of us look past that and want don't want to be fooled by misinformation coming from fake news sites or from known hucksters and frauds.
Also, because somebody on a sports team claims he's a skeptic doesn't mean he's actually a skeptic. I don't know why you keep running with this. Have hooked up with this person? Oh never mind, you'll probably receive the same tired response that's doing nothing wasting my time while I try to do things constructive.
Steve Marshall on May 30, 2017:
Gene, obviously you have trailed off. I'm completely off the Antartica story. I agree, no proof yet. It is quite interesting that there are 7 recognized countries (even more than that) that lay claim to Anatartica. My last question on this topic: Why such an interest in a frozen wasteland? I'm sure you will say Mineral rights, but way off. Why was Nazi Germany so interested (although you can say they were psychos) in Antartica? Why did we (US military) send Operation Highjump there in late 40's (declassified now)? Something very strange there (but of course, I know your answer).
Let's move on. I asked you your opinion on Gobleki Tepe in southern Turkey? Carbon dating approximately 11k years old. Perfect T square (20 ton structures at that). We didn't have the tools back then. Nothing even close to Stonehenge, these are perfect. No lying here, evidence is totally clear. Go research, and give the opinion I asked? Not hard at all.
I must move on to folks that do believe that Earth is not even remotely close to being only civilization in this massive, massive galaxy not to mention the Universe (Infinity may not be large enough). But of course, can't wait for your answer - No proof. It's right in front of you Man!
As a biz person, maybe you should look up the racing skeptic (was a member of US Cycle team - believe last name is Shummer???) Hook up w/ him, he can certainly educate you on how to maximize skepticism- he's an expert on how to make $$ by just saying simple things like: Impossible, They were hallucinating, Too many Sci-Fi movies. This is America - capitalize on capitalism.
Peace Out & Goooooood luuuuuck!!
As for not making $$, dude, you need a new manager. You as an absolute skeptic, is missing out. Put your (weak in my opinion) skepticism business to work.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on May 30, 2017:
Steve, I get the impression you don't have a huge grasp of what skepticism is or how this story came into being. First off, you do realize that this article was based on a viral internet story from a questionable "science" site that doesn't exist anymore. The story was vague and didn't offer many details such as the name of the explorers or the country they came from (later retelling of the story would attempt at least to say they were Americans and European). Also, it doesn't really pinpoint a particular area on the continent. Also, as I delved into the story. I discovered that most of the photos used in the numerous re-tellings were lifted, unknowingly from somebody's accounts, and were cropped (as well as being given suggestive captions) to appear to look like pyramids. There were a lot of things sketchy -- or shall I say, a lot of things that makes anyone very skeptical -- that it was an authentic story. What you have is a fake story...this is something I alluded to in the first paragraph.
Now with this skeptic thing. When you're skeptical of something you don't reject something outright; you merely state that all the evidence for a claim is not there or suspicious. Believe it or not, skeptics will question everything including things that were taught in history or science middle school courses. You may want to proclaim that History is wrong, but those with a skeptical belief will demand proof. In many cases, i believe that history is incomplete. There's always new findings or research that may force us to change our way of thinking about an event. But, a story like antarctic pyramid provides no real clues except a viral story that amounts to oral tradition (in which every time the story is retold, it changes a little).
Now about that money I make.... here's the grand total...a little over diddly squat! If I proclaimed that the pyramids were authentic, I guarantee you I'd be making hand over fist in money and will be invited to be a guest "researcher" on Ancient Aliens. After all, there's a lot of pyramid-is-power people, ufologists, and other sorts who would have their confirmation bias confirmed.
Steve Marshall on May 29, 2017:
Sorry Dean, let me correct: it's Gobekli Tepe. Predates Egyptians by 6k + years. Go check it out on Wikipedia or whatever. If early humans were this advanced, question is: how did they build this when conventional scientists or wannabes (like yourself - no offense) did not posses the tools to construct this massive, still mostly undiscovered temples?
Steve Marshall on May 29, 2017:
Hey Man, of course the Library of Alexandria burned way before (like I didn't know that) 16th century. But, certainly things/ideas survived and were passed on.
I'm sure you believe the Wright brothers invented flight. Wrong, they re-invented flight. I can't understand skeptics like yourself. I'm sure the Ancients according to you were "tripping" on mushrooms. It's all right here in front of you.
When I was in Middle School, the belief was the dinosaurs died of disease, etc. Now, we know what transpired.
Take Goble-Teke (pardon if misspelled) in Soutern Turkey. An Advaced society for sure (how did they lift 15 ton blocks over 10k years ago?) Can you maybe accept that HISTORY IS WRONG? You're like a govt debunker. Per my previous comment stating bicycle rider (some famous skeptic that seems to have an answer for everything - it's a term I call "Debunking for money") . If 80% believe, then I will debunk and sell a shit load of books. It's OK Gene to say "I can't explain it". I understand. BTW - how much $$ are you making to debunk? Simple question
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on May 25, 2017:
There's a lot of questions about Finaeus Map because it was introduced by Charles Hapgood, whose past work was questionable, at best. Although the person and map did exist, it has been in fragments for years until Hapgood came along and put it together. While it appears to have something closely resembling Antarctica, there are also a lot of things that are off, such as the coordinates and the absence of Palmer peninsula. The Library of Alexandria burned down way before the 16th century.
Steve Marshall on May 25, 2017:
Not Peries map, I meant the Oronteus Finaeus map of 16th century. Explain that? Not sure anyone can. Thought is it may have come from Library of Alexandria. Still, either ancients could survey from above or its alien in origin
Randy Godwin from Southern Georgia on May 24, 2017:
Hey Dean, even though you thoroughly debunked the pyramid myth there are always those who deny the obvious.
I'll have to check out your Piri Reis hub as the mysterious map has interested me since my childhood. (a long time ago)
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on May 24, 2017:
Steve Maxfield or Marshall, It's called the Piri Reis Map and I wrote an article about it. It was a perceived (but not accurate) to be an extension of South America -- there was a belief back in those days that there was land on the "four corners" of the world. Still, it's not Antarctica - in part that it is connected and much of it was a guess (and not it wasn't a good guess) ...as for the bike racer dude or the govt....smh.
Steve Marshall on May 24, 2017:
What is delay? Are you the govt? What need to review posts unless you are truly the sceptics? Big surprise!
Steve Maxfield on May 24, 2017:
Sounds like the bike racer dude (Mr. True sceptic). But how about an actual occurrence. Cartographer in late 16th century draws a map of Antartica Ice Free. According to most (and I'm sure you) Antartica was not discovered until 19th century. On top of that, he mapped the multi-million year(s) frozen continent Ice-Free w/ what is now perfect precision. Explain that Mr. Expert Debunker?
Michael Orwin on May 18, 2017:
To my mind there is one sure test to prove that these structures are natural. It is said that these rocks were cracked by natural forces - if so then find in the cracks a fossil that is half in one stone and half in the other. Fossils naturally de-laminate from their surrounding rock. In some place between these rocks in the wall a fossil must have been sheared in two proving the fossil was there before the crack!
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on April 06, 2017:
A 2017 update has been included. This time, a scientists speculates and evidence points to fossils in the region.
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on January 04, 2017:
I'm trying to make some sense of your remarks. All I can say is that I don't think you understand how fake news works. As for the other stuff you mentioned; I think you may need to refine your statement. It jumps around way too much for me to get the gist of what you are saying. Please resend your comments, if possible.
Dave on January 04, 2017:
Your story has a problem in the first sentence..the intriped explorers, making it sound like bumbling idiots.... HELLO only government or people close to governments are allowed there ,,, so if this is bogus ,,,, why would they be allow to publish such bogus crap,,, millions of years as you say,, would don't you think change things a bit ,,,, your story is bogus,, you look at things from a 20 century thinking but not surprised you probably graduated Yale or some other I am so proud of you college. If this is a hoax the question you need to rise is this. ..... Why are they goading me
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on January 02, 2017:
JEREMY, Antarctica has been a frozen continent for millions of years. Civilization has been around less than 50,000 (and by less I mean be a lot of years). I'll let you do the math on that. Also consider natural erosion
Surpringly they can create very symmetrical shapes.
Jeremy on January 02, 2017:
I had never heard about new pyramids. I didn't even know there was a story to be debunked. But I looked at the pictures in your article and have to ask, "Are you blind?!" Those look like pyramids! That is exciting. Not something to be debunked. It's entirely possible that frozen regions were once inhabitable. I think this is exciting and your article is too dismissive.
Phil Janes from Washington Coast on December 30, 2016:
Interesting subject: Do you have the installed version of Google Earth? I do.
Do you see the pyramids rising vertically when navigating in 3D? I don't. They obviously do have vertical relief in photos, but not in Google Earth (at least not for me).
The nearby mountains have vertical relief, but Google Earth has evidently censored the elevation data right at the pyramids. Same thing at Princess Elizabeth Station. South of the station, the snow field is shown rising 400' above the station on a 25% slope before dropping to the base of the pyramid. In photos, it is clear that the station is at the top of the hill, and the area to the south is approximately level as far as the base of the pyramid.
The only other explanation that I can think of is that the pyramids are hollow; like other buildings, they don't show up in radar mapping. Has anyone here actually seen the pyramids in 3D on Google Earth?
I saw another likely example of such geographic censorship this morning.
Miles Long UFO Crash Site On Ocean Bottom! 12/30/16
(coordinates in the description)
Either the author of this video has seen the feature sticking up like an upside down ice cream cone on Google Earth, and now it does not stick up (at least for me), or he's a complete idiot who didn't bother to use 3D view. To me, this appears to be a 1000-foot-deep circular crater-like depression on the top of a plateau at an elevation of -13,400; the bottom of the crater is -14,558.
Unlike the Antarctic pyramids, features on the ocean floor do not cast actual shadows. Instead, I presume, shadows are generated by algorithm, based on the elevation profile and an arbitrary light source.
Interesting subject. on December 30, 2016:
I went to Google Earth and punched in the coordinates Glenn Swart posted and sure enough there it is.
It does look like a pyramid but in looking at the other peaks in the area I do see many similar pyramidal peaks, none of which look as symmetrical as the "pyramid " in question.
Interestingly though, I noticed that the area immediately to the east of the "pyramid" is pixelated (not sure if that is a legit word) and blurry.
Still not enough proof either way but would be fascinating if it were true.
jeremy baughman on December 29, 2016:
i found one of the pyramid on google earth surrounded by a city
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on December 20, 2016:
Pbmc, I think you may want go back and read the comments again. I commented on those who were making disparaging remarks rather than stating they disagreed with me. Also you may want to go to rationalwikI and see their definition of a troll...then again that's not important. Those who disagree need to support their opinion rather than call me derogatory names. Also. I'm aware where some of these comments are coming from. One person believes in pyramid in Antarctica because it affirms his religious beliefs. Others are conspiracy theorists who will appeal to ignorance to discredit anything that counters their belief.
Finally, the articles focused on a fake news viral article. It was written 3 years ago, but I've been updating it whenever possible.
pbmc on December 20, 2016:
I seem to be a bit late to the party as the article is 9 months old but I just stumbled upon it. The author did a decent job stating his case but like others, I wouldn't consider the article a, "debunking". Don't get me wrong, I don't believe they are man-made structures either. It's just that the article is little more than conjecture. This is fine for stating your opinion but not so fine if you are claiming you're debunking something. Actually, I found the comments more interesting than the article. Mr. Traylor seems to be extremely thin skinned. Disagree with him and you're a, "troll". Like the word, debunking, he seems to be playing loosely with the definition of the word. troll. A troll is someone who posts only for the purpose of starting arguments or to upset people. Just posting that you disagree with something is not trolling. At least it was an entertaining read, article and comments.
Phil Janes on December 18, 2016:
New to the forum. Until yesterday, I was of the opinion that the pyramid shapes were imperfect enough to be natural; just a bunch of hoopla over nothing. Just to verify my belief, I found the pyramids on Google Earth, and flew around them; lo and behold, the pyramids ain't there!!!! The optical info does not appear to have been altered but the pyramids have been leveled in Google's elevation data.
Not having seen the pyramids via Google Earth previously, I can't vouch for earlier posts which seem to indicate that Google's elevation data did indeed show pyramid shapes in the past. If the elevation data have not been altered by Google (or by hackers), then we might have a case of hollow structures which are invisible to radar, just like our skyscrapers without the benefit LIDAR.
I found an aerial photo looking horizontally southward in which a pyramid is clearly visible behind Princess Elizabeth Station, and distant mountains form a skyline behind the pyramid. The top of the pyramid partly blocks the view of the skyline. I navigated Google Earth to duplicate, as near as possible, the location of the airplane, and rotated my view to approximate what a camera should see from that location. With the station lined up in the foreground, and the background mountains matching the photo, the pyramid is not there!!!!
A handful of photos could have been photoshopped to show pyramids; but there are many of them, which as far as I know are all in agreement. Not likely!
If the pyramid was ever visible on Google Earth and no longer is, then someone has altered the elevation data. But Who and Why? Should we blame Google exec's, the MSM, or hackers? Government hackers or private hackers?
If this is an attempt to debunk the "myth", it's had the opposite effect on me. If there is nothing to hide, then why try so hard to hide something?
If a pyramid is there optically but not in radar, it must be a hollow shell. I don't believe this to be the case because the elevation data show the level snowfield immediately south of the station sloping up to the south at a 25% slope, rising 400' above the station; the station is actually on the top of the hill. On the other hand, that hill may have been altered so that we will know the data has be altered, thus discounting the possibility that pyramids do not show up in radar.
We have seen how intricately plots like 911 have been convoluted; if this little deception is attributable to the same conspirators, they've probably thought of just about everything.
This is not the first time Google Earth has censored or altered the truth. For a while, Street View of Comet Pizza was blocked. The block where a school bus wrapped around a tree last month is blocked from street view. What is Google Earth's policy of censorship and fake geography? Do they have a public policy and a secret policy? Is Google Earth no longer valid evidence in a court of law? Like the rest of the MSM, GE has lost my faith. I can no longer believe anything I see on GE without verifying it on site with my own eyes.
trek on December 16, 2016:
Pyramids are ..............Usually if manmade at least hollow ....Weakness's due to erosion or how say a chamber is made , or what hollow's in what area's of the pyramid , would also make for weakness of the structure ...Yes the outside structure , depending on how thick the brickwork is in part's would either make this structure weaker or stronger in part's ............Then put this Pyramid in an area where later on , heavy snow , compact ice hundreds of feet thick ..and moving , weighing in at million's of tonnes and moving , where water even on the face of the Pyramid would freeze and expand ...What would happen to a structure which in part is hollow ...where say a giant ever moving mass of ice is coming at it ...Don't forget ice can destroy even stone ..So how would a manmade hollow structure fair ? .............Hmm ....just saying ..
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on December 10, 2016:
I will not be answering comments like this one in the future. Instead, I'd like to you visit the other article that touches upon this subject entitled, "Just an Opinion: When Antarctic Pyramid Believers Attack." Consider that a rebuttal. The most I will say is that I don't think you read the article, and it's obvious that you didn't read all the comments. After all, it appears that you are appealing to ignorance with your comment (or better known as a suggestive fallacy). Many commentators flat out called me all kinds of wonderful names. Me being rude? All I did was return the favor. On top of that, many of them didn't like the article because it didn't appeal to their confirmation bias. Many of them want to believe it's real (which in some way, I think you may too, despite your claims).
The article was written three years ago and the focus was on the only evidence for its existence: a viral story from a fake (and now defunct) science news site. Since then, I've updated the article and pointed out other anomalies such as a questionable Google Earth Map and another viral fake news site.
By the way, how can my point by countered? Do you have proof of that? Or is this more speculation that I was being speculative?
Eric on December 10, 2016:
I just casually came across this article because I saw people raising a stink about it, and while I highly doubt they are man-made pyramids, you have simply been rude Dean. The commenters, even those with tinfoil, have a point that you didn't actually prove anything. You just suggested it is unlikely the structure was a pyramid.
Most of your points could be countered with the equally speculative idea that maybe the structure is just deteriorated.
Again, you didn't establish the structure wasn't a pyramid. Rather just that it could be natural.
Starfox on December 05, 2016:
We've all a finite amount of time on this planet. Our resources are finite too. And so perhaps the most important question is, what is the best way to decide where to invest time and money, two very limited resources? What should we spend time investigating, and what is not worth the effort considering the cost in time, energy and hard earned money?
Since a negative can't be proved, it's foolish from the get-go to strive for the standard of "no one has proved that this theory is absolutely not true." A theory a notch above that might be called "very unlikely, but possible." Since much of the science we've developed so far has essentially no room for the pyramid theory to be true, proving these peaks to be pyramids would require rewriting large portions our understanding of how life evolved on our planet. And what are the statistical chances that we got so much wrong and are still getting the amazing coherence that we're getting from today's science?
Lest anyone feels that this way of thinking is akin to shutting the book on truly amazing wonders, I've a better proposal. Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson present a world full of wonder that is still incomplete in many ways, and the mysteries they present are often just as enigmatic and magical as this phenomenon.
If we invest ourselves as much in the mysteries they present with the resources dedicated to theories like this one, we'd be infinitely better off as a species. And, if it turns out that these peaks are indeed pyramids, pursuing the avenue I propose will ultimately lead the entire scientific community to investigate the Antarctic. Our work and effort to improve general science would one day lead us back to there...
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on December 04, 2016:
So Jeff in Indy...You believe I get paid a lot of money for this article? I wish...by the way, how long have you been part of that pyramid is power cult? It's a bit obvious. Well, sir (sorry, I had to go there) you gave me a good laugh when you stated I have been debunked. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion; however, I had a good chuckle about it.
jeff in Indy on December 04, 2016:
supposition is not fact, and there is one fact that is very peculiar: this is the 1st article that comes in an an ambigious GOOGLE SEARCH of pyramids and Antarctica, almost as if the 'debunking' story was pushed up to the top of the Google search chain by those wishing to suppress a fact. No mention was made of the research lab within spitting distance of the pyramid, and now there are several spotted, of which, NONE of them were debunked by this nonexpert on geography. You, sir, are a geographical fraud, probably paid by someone, like the USARP geo funded groups, to publish a nonpartisan debunking story. Your goofy explanations are all speculation, and not scientific fact. Like all debunkers, you make a red herring comparison to Alien and Predators or some ad hominem like 'conspiracy theorists' to freshen your argument. You, sir, have been debunked.
--Rooster on November 28, 2016:
You know what. Forget about that last message of mine.
The article is pretty decent. But you should've edited in more sources.
And the comment section could've been better.
Kahlypso on November 28, 2016:
Hi, these large structures peeking out over the ice are not man made pyramids (forget about alien theories as they remain that, just theories) the last time that Man could have lived on the Antartica is almost 110k years ago. The pyramids on the Antartica will be Step Pyramids, made out of blocks larger than anything we've seen in Egypt or Central America. They wont be aligned to the North/South/East/West as seen ONLY on the Giza Pyramid, and we'll probably only find crumpled remains and cracked rocks.. However if (and when) we find these pyramids, they will be complete and not ransacked like all the other Pyramids, and will command an instant visit from World Leaders and Religious figureheads as they rush to see what was uncovered. Kinda like Putins and Kerry's recent visits and the Patriach of the Russian Orthodox chuch. For exemple.
Ethan on November 25, 2016:
Dean, I admire your willingness to interact with these trolls. I would have given up days ago! Anyway, I enjoyed the read! Someone has to redeem the internet as a place of valid factual information. I, however, lack the patience required. Keep at it!
Dean Traylor (author) from Southern California/Spokane, Washington (long story) on November 24, 2016:
Alex, first off, it sounds like youre commenting on the "just an opinion" article. If not,