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Seventh-Day Adventists: Who the Heck Are They?

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Ellen & James White, co-founders of the SDA church, and their children.

Ellen & James White, co-founders of the SDA church, and their children.

The Seventh-Day Adventist Church has been called a cult by some and "fringe" Protestants by others. But are they either? This article hopes to enlighten readers with facts about actual SDA beliefs.

The Seventh-Day Adventist Church is a Protestant denomination that began as an offshoot of the Millerite Movement. The Millerites were followers of William Miller, a farmer, and a preacher, who upon reading scripture (specifically Daniel 8:14), concluded that Jesus Christ's Second Advent would occur on October 22, 1844. Many of Miller’s followers even sold their earthly possessions due to their conviction that the end of the world was near.


When Jesus did not appear, Miller stated he had made a mistake; he then issued another date for the Second Coming of Jesus. After Miller’s second failure, most of his followers abandoned the movement. This second let-down became known as the Great Disappointment.

Nevertheless, a few believers chose to go back to their Bibles to try and figure out where they went wrong. From this small group, the Adventists began to form beliefs that would later form the doctrine of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church. The SDA church became a formal denomination in 1863, and was co-founded by Joseph Bates, Ellen G. White, and James Springer White, among others. As an aside, it should also be noted that members of the church often refer to themselves as SDAs or "Adventists."

Some Personal Background

Around 1956, two love-struck teenagers fell in love. One of them was my father, whose parents were very, very Catholic. The other teenager was my mother, who was raised by two devout Seventh Day Adventists, my grandparents. My parents married when they were both 18 years of age. After my brother and I appeared on the scene, both sets of grandparents unabashedly took it upon themselves to raise their grandchildren in the religion each had faithfully observed for many generations.

One might assume the contradiction between being raised both Catholic and Protestant may have bewildered two young children; however, no such perplexity or chaos ever materialized in my young mind nor in that of my sibling. In fact, having been raised by two "opposing religions" (both of which treated us quite well) was an experience neither of us has ever regretted. My brother and I appreciated both religions, strange as it may seem.

Furthermore, I can honestly say that Seventh Day Adventists have had a positive impact on my life. Thus, in having observed that SDAs are generally misunderstood, I decided to do my part to set the record straight. As an aside, I attended an SDA high school and an SDA college.

My mom and her two little (part-time) Adventists. I'm the funny looking one on the end.

My mom and her two little (part-time) Adventists. I'm the funny looking one on the end.

SDAs Believe in the Basic Tenets of Christianity

Given the Millerite debacle, it is not difficult to understand why the SDA church has been considered a "fringe" religion by many folks. However, just like mainstream Protestants (and Catholics, for that matter), SDAs believe in the major precepts of Christianity---that Jesus lived, died, and was resurrected; that Jesus is mankind's Savior, and that Jesus will return to gather the faithful to live with him for eternity. SDAs also believe in prayer, communion, and missionary work. In effect, the SDA Church believes that salvation is God's gift to humanity through his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. However, Seventh Day Adventists have some significant theological differences that we will explore later in this article.


Ellen G. White

Ellen G. White was one of the early co-founders of the SDA Church. She began prophesying at 17 years of age until she died 70 years later, in 1915. Adventists believe E.G. White had the "gift of prophecy" and that her many and extensive doctrinal writings were inspired by God. Indeed, Mrs. White's voluminous writings (5,000 periodical articles and 40 books) are considered the authority on SDA teachings. Additionally, Mrs. White had approximately 2000 visions pertaining to healthy living, end-times, and other prophesies, as well as insights into the daily life of Jesus before his ministry began.

Smithsonian Magazine named Ellen G. White as one of The 100 Most Significant and Interesting Americans of All Time. The magazine article provides highly detailed information about Ellen White's visions as well as eyewitness testimony of these events wherein Mrs. White would enter a trance-like state during her revelations. However, the Smithsonian article downplays the supernatural somewhat, suggesting that the visions were a result of a traumatic head injury young Ellen had suffered as a child, which indeed she had.

Certainly, the Adventist church has received quite a lot of criticism regarding Ellen White's visions. It has even been suggested that White may have had epilepsy, possibly schizophrenia, and that, furthermore, her visions were a result of a "hysterical" personality. However, no credible evidence exists to substantiate any of these claims. Thus, the Smithsonian article leaves the reader to determine for themselves why and how the visions may have come about.

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In any event, it is these seemingly strange trances that have caused reasonable people to speculate whether the Seventh Day Adventist church is a cult-like organization.

Adventists Are Exceptionally Health Conscious

One cannot speak of Adventists without first realizing how well-respected they are in the field of healthcare and nutrition. The SDA approach to healthy living is quite simple. Adventists promote a vegetarian diet of legumes, whole grains, nuts, fruits, and vegetables. The SDA church believes that our bodies are the temple of God and must therefore be respected as such. SDAs tend to be vegetarian; many do not smoke or drink much if any, alcohol. Additionally, Adventists tend to remain physically active into old age. In fact, Loma Linda, a primarily Adventist community in California, boasts one of the longest and healthiest life expectancy communities in the world. Interestingly, such communities are referred to as blue zones.

In fact, my very own Adventist grandparents never smoked, never drank coffee or liquor, and never ate meat of any kind. My grandpa even grew his own vegetables. My grandmother was a superb cook who never purchased an ounce of meat. As for exercise, she enjoyed her brisk walks.

Because I also spent a good portion of my time with my Catholic relatives, who ate meat, smoked, and drank coffee and liquor, I came out somewhere in the middle of the nutrition spectrum. (Although I have never smoked.) Accordingly, I am incredibly grateful for the lessons I learned from the Adventists about proper diet, to include viewing my body as a temple of God. I feel confident that this knowledge has greatly contributed to my overall health, well-being, and self-respect.

Loma Linda Medical Center, an SDA facility.

Loma Linda Medical Center, an SDA facility.


Dr. Ben Carson

Dr. Ben Carson

Dr. Ben Carson: One of the More Famous SDAs

One of the more illustrious SDAs in the United States is Dr. Ben Carson, retired neurosurgeon, and former Director of Johns Hopkins Hospital of Pediatric Neurosurgery. Dr. Carson was undoubtedly a gifted physician. He successfully separated conjoined twins; developed and performed (intra-uterine) surgery on a fetal twin as well as a hemispherectomy to relieve the seizures of an infant, among many other difficult surgeries. Dr. Carson was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George W. Bush in 2008. Dr. Ben Carson was the United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, under the Trump Administration.

SDAs and Education

The Church has approximately 7,000 schools around the world and over 100 colleges and universities. Adventist universities produce a plethora of physicians, nurses, and other professionals. Indeed, when I attended an SDA high school and college (My high school senior class had only 40 students), I was surrounded by classmates whose parents were M.D.'s or other medical professionals. Although I was the poor kid on the block, I always felt perfectly at home among these more privileged students.

Back in the day—here I am at Pacific Union college, modeling ski wear for an SDA promotional event. The other coed got first dibs on the faux fur jacket. Darn her!

Back in the day—here I am at Pacific Union college, modeling ski wear for an SDA promotional event. The other coed got first dibs on the faux fur jacket. Darn her!

SDA Baptismal Vows

1. I believe in God the Father; in His Son, Jesus Christ; and in the Holy Spirit

2. I accept the death of Jesus to pay for my sins

3. I accept the new heart Jesus gives me in place of my sinful heart

4. I believe that Jesus is in heaven as my best friend and that He gives me the Holy Spirit so I can obey Him

5. I believe God gave me the Bible as my most important guidebook

6. By God living in me, I want to obey the Ten Commandments, which include the observance of the seventh day of the week as the Sabbath

7. I want to help as many people as possible to be ready for the soon coming of Jesus

8. I believe God gives special abilities to His people, and that the Spirit of Prophecy is given to His chosen people

9. I want to help God's church with my influence, effort, and money

10. I want to take good care of my body because the Holy Spirit lives there now

11. With God's power, I want to obey the basic principles of the Seventh-day Adventist Church

12. I want to be baptized to show people I am a Christian

13. I want to be a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and I can believe this church has a special message to give to the world

How SDAs Differ From Other Protestants

  • SDAs believe the Sabbath is Saturday, not Sunday.

SDAs refrain from working on Saturday and attend worship services on Saturday. No Adventist would ever think of replacing the Sabbath day (Saturday) with Sunday. They believe that to do so would be to reject the word of God and the 4th Commandment: Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God...

“For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” Exodus 20:11

Adventists observe the Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.

  • SDAs rarely wear jewelry, if at all.

The idea behind forsaking jewelry is many fold. I will only touch upon it here. The pagans of Roman times wore jewelry not only to lavishly adorn themselves, but to also honor the pagan gods and/or Caesar. Ancient Roman jewelry was engraved with pagan symbols or etchings of Caesar. Some early Christians began wearing engraved jewelry, but St. Paul warned against wearing anything that might honor paganism and the excesses of Rome. Thus, St. Paul encouraged women to be modest in their dress.

Today, most jewelry pieces are not engraved with images of Caesar and/or pagan gods. Nevertheless, Adventists still counsel against "needless adornment" and instead encourage "simplicity" of dress. Ellen G. White had owned a gold watch for a time, but eventually discarded it because it proved to be a stumbling block for some church members. Otherwise, E.G. White had no personal problem with the watch.

SDA's had not been "allowed" to wear wedding rings because it was thought to be "prideful." It was not until 1986 that the ban on wearing wedding rings was lifted. Prior to that time, Adventists wore a nice watch, instead of a ring, as the marriage symbol. Many Adventists still follow this custom today.

The SDA wedding watch.

The SDA wedding watch.

  • SDA's are politically diverse.

45% of SDA's are Democrats, 35% are Republicans, 19% identify as Independents or claim no political affiliation. About 53% approve of larger government, while 42% prefer a small government. Adventists believe it is important for the woman to decide very carefully about the decision to choose abortion with the understanding that there may be extenuating circumstances, such as rape, incest, congenital defects or serious jeopardy to the health of the woman. The official stance is that God's grace promotes life and that God considers the unborn child a human life.

  • SDAs are Conscientious Objectors.

Adventists, by and large, do not carry arms during wartime, but they have always willingly served in the military as medics or in any other capacity that does not include the killing of another human being. The reason SDA's will not bear arms is due to the Sixth Commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Kill." Again, SDA's take the Ten Commandments literally.

By now, many of you may be familiar with Mel Gibson's Oscar nominated film, Hacksaw Ridge, a powerful portrayal of the true story of Desmond Doss, a Seventh Day Adventist conscientious objector, who volunteered to join the army during World War II. Doss is credited with having saved approximately 75 lives as an Army Medic during his service in World War II.

Corporal Doss was awarded the Medal of Honor by President Truman "for outstanding gallantry far above and beyond the call of duty." The Medal of Honor is the highest award a soldier can achieve. Doss never fired a single bullet, nor was he tucked away in a tent during battle. He saved lives by putting others' ahead of his own safety, on the battlefield. It is an understatement to say that his faith and courage was remarkable.

Corporal Desmond T. Doss with his wife Dorothy, after having received the Medal of Honor from President Harry Truman.

Corporal Desmond T. Doss with his wife Dorothy, after having received the Medal of Honor from President Harry Truman.

A Film based Upon the Life of Desmond Doss.

  • SDA's do not believe in Hell or eternal punishment.

The SDA church believes that the dead know nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6) and that they remain in a sleep (of sorts) until the Final Judgment Day. SDA's believe that when Jesus comes again, the righteous will live with him in heaven a thousand years for a time of reconciliation, after which time God will then return to earth to resurrect the unrighteous dead; He will then cleanse the earth with fire. In essence, SDA's do not believe in eternal torment but in a quick annihilation. After the cleansing, the Lord and the faithful will create a new heaven or "New Jerusalem" on earth where sin is no more and where joy and peace reign forevermore.

  • SDA's are ethnically diverse and have been since their founding.

According to Pew Research, Seventh-day Adventists "top the list" regarding diversity, with the highest score of all major religions within the U.S., at a score of 9.1. For adults who identify as Seventh-day Adventists, 37% are white, 32% are black, 15% are Hispanic, 8% are Asian and another 8% are another race or a mixed race.

Grain of Salt, Anyone?

Another author in this community has stated that the SDA church is a cult and that once involved, one "CANNOT leave the church" (paraphrase), the implication being that the church will engage in some sort of nefarious, menacing activity to make a fearful follower stay. His point seemed to be that the SDA church is dangerous and SCARY!

Frankly, I have never heard anything more nonsensical in my life. Nobody chases anyone down in the SDA church. That kind of talk is beyond silly. Crazy stuff just does not happen. SDAs are some of the most grounded people I've ever met. They tend to be highly educated and frankly, quite normal, sometimes a little bit on the boring side, when all is said and done.

However, everyone must decide for themselves what they choose to believe. Let's face it, some SDA beliefs may seem odd, but cult-like? Not at all.

My brother, Orlando. SDA high school graduate. PhD & Chief Academic Officer. It is no wonder that he appreciates the SDA Education message.

My brother, Orlando. SDA high school graduate. PhD & Chief Academic Officer. It is no wonder that he appreciates the SDA Education message.

Final Reflections

This article has touched only upon a few facts pertaining to Seventh Day Adventists, but if it has served to educate the layman on a few points of interest pertaining to SDAs, its purpose has been accomplished.

In closing, let me share with you what my brother stated regarding his feelings about the SDA church---given that we were raised together, in two different religions...

"I felt there were too many rules, and I'm the type of person who feels obliged to follow all of them, but I respect their health message very much. To this day, I still lean toward the view that Saturday is the Sabbath, even if I go to church on Sunday sometimes. Also, they are the only church that follows ALL Ten Commandments."

I asked him if he thinks the church is a cult. He laughed, as if to say:

"What a dumb question. No."

I feel the same way.


This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional.

Questions & Answers

Question: How do Seventh-Day Adventists explain the suicide of mentally ill or handicapped people?

Answer: The founder of the SDA church, Ellen G. White, had this to say: “Christ recognized no distinction of nationality or rank or creed.” “He passed by no human being as worthless but sought to apply the healing remedy to every soul.”

SDA universities produce a plethora of medical professionals and high-ranking hospitals. As such, they understand medical issues. Their stance is that in the case of "profound emotional upheaval or biochemical imbalances associated with a deep state of depression and fear, we should not pass judgment on the person who, under those circumstances, opted for suicide."

SDA's believe that God is just and all-knowing and that he takes everything into account before passing judgment.

As for disabled persons or any other type of person, Christ looks upon us all as being the same. We are all valuable. However, the sense I get regarding suicide is that choosing to end one's life strictly out of fear is unwise. But as I stated, God takes everything into account.

Question: Do Seventh-Day Adventists believe that you must be an SDA in order to be saved?

Answer: As long as you believe in the Trinity and have accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior and are doing your best to follow the nudging of the Holy Spirit, then you are saved. However, SDA's also believe that in the End Times "just prior to the second coming of Christ, this earth will experience a period of unprecedented turmoil with the seventh-day Sabbath as a focal point. In that context, we expect that world religions, including the major Christian bodies as key players--will align themselves with the forces in opposition to God and to the Sabbath. Once again the union of church and state will result in widespread religious oppression."

At this point, if we are still alive, there will be a choice to make as to whether to accept the mark of the beast or proclaim one's allegiance to Christ.

A verse to consider is Romans 10: 9 & 10 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and is justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

But to answer your specific question, SDA's believe that all Christians are sisters and brothers in Christ and that we are to respect one another, despite which denomination we belong to; that as long as we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and follow Him, we are saved, and that we are saved by grace, not by works. Salvation is a gift given to all who wish to receive it.

Question: Do you now identify as an SDA or a Catholic?

Answer: Because I feel equally comfortable in either Protestant or Catholic church services, I consider myself a follower of Christ. I do not have a membership on the rolls of either church at this juncture. I will say that I much prefer the sermons of Protestants, but I respect the ritual of Catholics. Yes, I do participate in the body of Christ, but only on special and rare occasions. As an aside, I was baptized into the Catholic church and I have had my Holy Communion and Confirmation. However, I was not married in the Catholic Church.

Question: Why do SDA hospitals perform abortions?

Answer: The church is currently revisiting its stance on abortion due to much inner pressure condemning the practice. The Adventist Church will publish an Official Guideline regarding abortion in 2020. To my knowledge, the SDA Church has traditionally maintained that the decision to terminate a pregnancy is between the woman and her doctor. As an aside, in highly exceptional cases, abortion is the only procedure that can save the mother's life. Ellen G. White made no specific mention of abortion; however, she spoke strongly about the sacredness of life. She stated, "Human life, which God alone could give, must be sacredly guarded."

© 2017 savvydating


savvydating (author) on January 25, 2020:

Hello Doneta.... I do not recall having said that in the article. Perhaps it came up in the Question section? At any rate, I will review my article and make adjustments as needed.

So kind of you to drop by. I appreciate it.

Doneta Wrate from Michigan on January 25, 2020:

I am a SDA. I quickly breezed through your article and for the most part feel it is balanced and very good for as much as I got from it. One point though I feel you mixed up between Catholic and SDA. SDA do not pray for the souls of the dead. The dead are sleeping until Jesus comes again. Once they die, their fate is sealed. They have made their decision.

savvydating (author) on December 22, 2019:

Hello nedroux...... In truth, I am not thoroughly ingrained in the SDA belief system, but I do admire their accomplishments. Nor am I a practicing Catholic, however I have received all the sacraments in the church except marriage. Generally speaking, I rarely take communion in the Catholic church and only if I am encouraged by family to do so.

I am sorry and disappointed to hear that an SDA minister spoke badly of Catholics. That is unacceptable to me. Similarly, I have heard one of my Catholics relatives say unkind things about SDA's, and they were even unkind to my wonderful SDA grandparents. Needless to say, that did not sit well with me, although I have forgiven them.

I welcome your prayers. If my comment regarding "state of grace" is hurtful to you, I will remove the comment as I do not wish to offend my Catholic friends. Thank you for your prayers.

nedroux22 on December 21, 2019:

Dear Yves,

First of all I want to say that I will pray for you. It is quite obvious from reading your article that you are engrained in the SDA belief system, which I am not putting you down for. I appreciate certain aspects of the SDA belief system, especially when it comes to an individual's health. I have attended quite a few of the SDA services and in some of those services I was taken aback on how the pastor put down other Protestant denominations and then really laid it on thick in chastising the Catholic faith. During those services, it was far from what you state as the SDAs being respectful of other Christian denominations. The reason that I attended the SDA services is that my wife is an SDA. My wife had been raised as a Catholic until she attended an SDA school in South America. She was converted into the SDA belief system while she attended that school. I believe that each person must find their own way in their faith journey. I was raised as a Protestant, but later in life converted to the Roman Catholic Church. When you indicated in your article that you receive Holy Communion sometimes, because the Catholic Church states you only need to be in a state of grace, I knew then that you were not a practicing Catholic, as there is much more involved than that (although that is a necessary component). I would refer you to the Catechism of the Catholic Church for a more descriptive explanation of what is required to be allowed to receive Holy Communion. Overall, you provided some interesting information about the SDA belief system, but I would recommend to all those that want to get a true perspective of this denomination that you attend some of their services and decide for yourselves. May God bless you and keep you. I will pray for you and I would only ask the same in return.

savvydating (author) on April 28, 2019:

Happy Sunday, James.....Thank you for the kind words. How interesting to learn that your father had flown Dr. Carson. And isn't it funny that people would actually go to a hospital for lunch? That's so SDA....making hospital food taste good. Ha!

Indeed, SDA's are very unique. Ellen G. White was a remarkable woman, not to mention, a prolific author. I am surprised and delighted, actually, to know that you quoted The Great Controversy in one of your books and in your bibliography. I will plan on looking at that.

Appreciate your stopping by, James. Your comments are most interesting. And thank you for bringing up the Sabbath and annihilation. They are such important, yet controversial subjects.

James A Watkins from Chicago on April 28, 2019:

I love your brilliant article. I had no idea why Loma Linda was so healthy but I had read that it was. The article did not mention SDA. My father is a private jet captain and he has flown Dr. Ben quite a number of times. I did not know he was SDA, either. Thank you for the learning opportunity your article provides.

My family was not SDA but I know them well. I grew up eight miles down the road from Andrews University. I have been to the museum there and toured the campus. When I lived in Orlando I knew people with the SDA Florida Hospital, one of the best. The meatless cafeteria there draws people from all around who go to a hospital for lunch!

I was in the SDA for a couple years. I believe they are right about most everything, including that Saturday is the true Sabbath, although I do not believe that is salvific. I especially kept the SDA view of annihilationism.

I love Ellen G. White's books, the Desire of Ages, and the Great Controversy. In fact the latter is quoted in one of my books and appears in my bibliography. I do believe she was a prophet.

Nell Rose from England on February 27, 2019:

Thanks Yves :)

savvydating (author) on February 27, 2019:

So true. One has to wonder.... Thanks for stopping by again, Nell Rose. (such a pretty name---it flows.)

Nell Rose from England on February 27, 2019:

Hiya, I just get totally confused with all the different denominations. For one person (Jesus), who was on his own its amazing how many different religions there are! LOL!

savvydating (author) on October 15, 2018:

Hi Pamela! I'm so glad that you were able to learn some things about SDA's. They really are highly misunderstood, which always surprises me, given their presence in the world and especially their reputation as first-rate surgeons. But I guess the word doesn't get out as much as one might think. Lol. Thank you for stopping by. I appreciate it.

Pamela Oglesby from Sunny Florida on October 15, 2018:

I learned so much about the SDA church that I never knew, such as all the education facilites and their belief in being a vegan. I found this article to be surprising interesting. I don't mean that in a negative was, as I now have a more positve view as a Christian.

savvydating (author) on October 01, 2018:

Well Nell, thank goodness! I was beginning to think I was alone in this multi-faith scenario. But seriously, it didn't hurt me a bit. Really, it was more of a good thing, strange as that may seem. Thanks for stopping by, our wonderful Nell Rose!

Nell Rose from England on October 01, 2018:

Interesting stuff! talking of religion, it seems that mine are, Catholic (irish) Presbyterian (scottish) Jewish/Muslim! LOL! and that was just on my Dads side! I will stick to Church of England!

savvydating (author) on September 12, 2018:

Thank you, Ron. I am a great admirer of your work and I appreciate your stopping by to read this particular article! I truly enjoyed writing about the SDA's. It was a work of love.

Ronald E Franklin from Mechanicsburg, PA on September 11, 2018:

Thanks for a good article that showed me things about the SDA church I never knew before. I really appreciate your unique perspective as someone who is both an insider and an outsider to that denomination at the same time.

savvydating (author) on August 13, 2018:

Hi Readmikenow....So pleased you found the article interesting. You asked if I still have to deal with the contrast between Seventh Day Adventists and the Catholic Church? The answer is: Not really. I viewed & still view both churches as similar to having two parents who loved me. Consequently, I loved both of them back.

Strangely, I still feel comfortable in either church and I will defend both churches---even against the other. The reality is that SDA's & Roman Catholic's are "opposing" religions. Nevertheless, I see past that to the Creator who supersedes mere human knowledge. That is not to say that I agree with all the tenets of either church. Interestingly, my brother feels as I do.

Thank you for the question and for stopping by. I appreciate it.

Readmikenow on August 13, 2018:

Very interesting article. I knew next to nothing about Seventh Day Adventists prior to reading this. I had a co-worker once who was a Seventh Day Adventist, but he stayed to himself. Very nice guy. I enjoyed reading it. I wonder if you still have to deal with the conflict between Seventh Day Adventists and the Catholic church.

savvydating (author) on April 05, 2018:

Dear Larry...How very kind you are. I am greatly heartened by your positive comments regarding SDA's. Thank you for giving me a big smile this morning!

Yes indeed,Dr. Carson and E.G. White are/were great personalities. Also, If you ever get a chance to see the movie "Hacksaw Ridge" I think you will find it quite inspiring.

Larry W Fish from Raleigh on April 05, 2018:

Yves, this is one of the most interesting articles that I have ever read on HubPages. It was so interesting that I had to read it a second time. I have a much different view in my head of the SDA's than I previously had. I never knew that Dr. Ben Carson was a member of the SDA. I was also inspired by Ellen White, she was a remarkable woman, You Yves, are an interesting writer.

savvydating (author) on February 26, 2018:

And thank you, Tony. It is always interesting to hear how former or current SDA's feel about the Adventist religion. It is always a shame if a member places E.G. White above the bible. She would not have condoned that.

But I hear what you are saying and I definitely appreciate your comments regarding SDA's.

Tony Muse from Texas, USA on February 26, 2018:

I was born and raised in the SDA church, my family is still in the church and my wife is a life-long SDA from two generations of SDA missionaries. I used to believe in everything that the church taught and was especially enthralled with their interpretation of prophecy.

However, as I began to study the Bible in earnest for myself, I found that a few of their teachings were not in harmony with what I had become to belief as the true intent f certain passages. I still attend an SDA church with my wife, but my beliefs have definitely parted ways on many of the beliefs that make them a unique denomination.

Unlike some people, I do not believe that the beliefs of the SDA church are cultic, I would "suggest" there are a minority of people in the church that hold the writings of Ellen White to be either equal to, or an enlightenment of scripture. I once heard that a member proclaimed that Jesus was not a vegetarian since He ate fish, to which another replied "Jesus didn't have the inspired writings of Ellen White". For people with that mentality, I would have to say that they have become a cult unto themselves.

Thank you for your honest article.

savvydating (author) on February 24, 2018:

How rude to belittle three religions and the students attached to them. I am so happy that you "blurted out." So often, individuals just need to be educated about the facts so as not to remain ignorant.

I see you have written a new hub. Will be along to visit sometime soon. :)

Chris Mills from Traverse City, MI on February 24, 2018:

Yves, I was taken back as well in the class when the professor pronounced the denomination of three of his students to be a cult. I simply blurted out, "That is not true." The professor gave me time in a later class period to defend the Quakers on this point. His objection had been that the Quakers did not hold to the authority of the Bible since they believed in further revelation by the Holy Spirit to believers today. I told how George Fox, the founder of the Quakers, had memorized large portions of the Bible and spoke often about his personal commitment to its teachings. At the end of my presentation, the professor said he would have to rethink his position regarding the Quakers. Such shallow, knee-jerk reactions to those who seem to be different are what turns so many away from the conservative, Christian churches. The SDA does differ on certain points from other Protestants, but not so far as to consider them a cult. That is ridiculous. The Narrow Way has become far too narrow, in my opinion.

savvydating (author) on February 24, 2018:

Hi Chris,

I admit to being surprised that a Christian college would teach that Quakers and SDA's are cults. How very disappointing! I admit to not knowing much about Quakers beyond their belief in a meditative listening to God. Furthermore, they are Protestant Christians. How that is considered cult-like is beyond me.

In any event, I truly appreciate your kind words regarding the SDA church. Thanks for stopping by. :)

Chris Mills from Traverse City, MI on February 24, 2018:

Yves, Thank you for your well-written hub that gives us an insider's view. I attended a Christian college which teaches that The SDA church is a cult. They also teach that the Quaker denomination in which I was raised is a cult. I defended them in my Church History class along with two other Quakers. I appreciate the distinctive beliefs the SDA's bring to our society and respect the good they have done.

savvydating (author) on October 12, 2017:

Thank you, Demas. I would only add to 15 that SDA's believe in a quick annihilation of the unrighteous and not an eternal torment.

Another fact researchers found out is that SDA's have a daily prayer life, whereas many other church goers pray once a week, on average.

Demas W Jasper from Today's America and The World Beyond on October 12, 2017:

Further comment (some duplicatory perhaps) on SDA doctrine: (1) SDA believe God is a personal but invisible being, omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent; (2) SDA believe the Holy Ghost is a great regenerating power, whose presence is the presence of both the Father and the Son; (3) SDA believe man had no prior existence prior to his earthly birth; (4) SDA believe divine authority has been invested in the SDA Church, and that other churches can have authority, if they are in harmony with God and His word; (5) SDA believe in baptism only by immersion and by other churches under certain conditions; (6) SDA believe Christ was conceived by the Holy Ghost and born of the Virgin Mary voluntarily taking on human flesh, sinless as both man and God, establishing no visible church while on earth, though the SDA Church was raised up to give God's special message for today; (7) SDA believe The Lord's Supper's bread and wine are symbolic representations of the body and blood of Christ; (8) SDA believe Christ's atonement was for both original and personal sins for all who believe in Christ; (9) SDA believe in the resurrection of the perfected body following a "sleep" until the day of the resurrection; (10) SDA believe the wicked who are unrepentant are annihilated at their executive judgment, while the righteous receive immortality with God; (11) SDA do not believe in vicarious work on behalf of the dead; (12) SDA believe there is no probation after death; (13) SDA believe there have been and still are miracles which are the direct interposition of divine power apart from God's usual mode of working; (14) SDA believe Satan is a fallen angel destined for non-existence with all other unrepentants;

(15) SDA believe in Heaven as the place of the throne of God, and where God dwells in a sense in which He does not dwell anywhere else, while Hell describes the fires of the last days during which the wicked will be utterly destroyed; (16) SDA believe that while exceptions are possible, membership in the invisible Church of Christ is necessary to salvation. membership in the visible church is in accord with a divine plan; (17) SDA believe the canon of scriptures is closed, but they believe in ancient revelations and God's power to reveal himself to His church through prophecy; (18) SDA believe marriage is a divine institution ordained for the good of man until death but that there is no marriage relationship in the future state; (19) SDA Believe man is created for the glory of God to cooperate with God in the realization of this divine plan. that mortality is not part of eternal life, and that immortality is a gift of God; and (20) SDA believe in the bodily, visible return of Christ to this earth in power and glory, a return that is near but has no as yet revealed time.

savvydating (author) on October 12, 2017:

Thanks, Nell. As an aside, all the Adventists I've ever met are just so doggone intelligent.

And don't worry, some of them wear jewelry on the down-low. Lol.

They're good people. Maybe I shouldn't say "they." I'm partially one of them, deep down.

I truly appreciate your reading about SDA's with an open mind. ;)

Nell Rose from England on October 12, 2017:

How fascinating! there are some good stuff there, and some that would get on my nerves like no rings etc. I do think all religions bog themselves down with trivia in the middle. but saying that, I didn't have much of an opinion before but now I have read this I actually quite like the idea!

savvydating (author) on July 29, 2017:

How very kind of you, Perspycacious. I so appreciate your going out of your way to share. I have not forgotten your recommendation regarding my comment to Kingdom Come. Lots of things are going on in my life these days, but it should settle down in a few weeks, whereupon I will read over the comment you mentioned before.

I am currently reading the Bible from beginning to end, but I do not attend church regularly. However, I will attend church on either Saturday or Sunday. That being said, I still believe that Saturday is the Sabbath when all is said and done. I contemplate God most every day. I know you are a man of faith and that is a wonderful thing.

Demas W Jasper from Today's America and The World Beyond on July 29, 2017:

I shared this with an SDA friend who just a week ago attended an SDA camp meeting of some 10,000 members (and participants?) She appreciated your good Hub, and I suspect she will also share the link. Watch your numbers and see. Which Sabbath do you celebrate now?

Demas W Jasper from Today's America and The World Beyond on July 27, 2017:

Because: he placed the lives of others above his own in keeping with "No greater love hath a man than that he lay down his life for a friend, and ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you." Read you comment carefully and you will see why it was topsy turvy.

savvydating (author) on July 27, 2017:

Hi P. Why hide the comment? Please explain. Doss risked his life many, many times over. Although he did not complain, he suffered physically from all the damage done to his body until the day he died.

Demas W Jasper from Today's America and The World Beyond on July 27, 2017:

In a comment to Kingdomcome (below) you got Doss' love of people topsy turvy. You wrote in your comment that "He literally placed his life above others." I suggest that, for its other merits, you just hide that comment, as it is too late (?) to change it.

savvydating (author) on July 27, 2017:

What a thoughtful comment, Persycacious. I appreciate it. How amazing is it that your wife also has some SDA roots. The ministry of SDA's reaches far and wide, not unlike The LDS church. Thank you for visiting, dear fellow!

Demas W Jasper from Today's America and The World Beyond on July 27, 2017:

I especially appreciated that you included "SDA Baptismal Vows". What we covenant to do and be is especially important as an indicator of what we intended and a barometer of how well we are doing, It has been said that any religion which does not call for sacrificing some aspect of self for others is probably not Christian. Those vows set the stage for such sacrifices, as do my own LDS baptismal covenants.

My wife is a wonderful blending of her Buddhist, SDA, and LDS beliefs and practices.

The listing of total membership of various Christian faiths was also of interest, along with the historical and present-day aspects and accomplishments of the world's Adventists who as recently as 1959 were estimated to number as few as 532,000 adherents worldwide contrasted to Roman Catholics that same year estimated as 495,000,000 and LDS as 3,700.000. Based on such figures, the number of SDA adherents has grown significantly. Your Hub makes that growth understandable.

savvydating (author) on June 09, 2017:

Hi DDE...Thank you. SDA's have a good message, in my opinion. I appreciate their values very much.

DDE on June 08, 2017:

Hi, interesting and lots to think about and great emphasis here.

savvydating (author) on May 09, 2017:

Thank you for your kind reply, MizBejabbers. Personally, I have found SDA's to be very grounded. I am truly glad you learned some new things from the hub. I appreciate your stopping by despite our political differences. That was very big of you.

Doris James MizBejabbers from Beautiful South on May 09, 2017:

Very good and informative article. I have had friends who were SDAs and they were very nice educated people. I took classes on Revelation at the local SDA church years ago. Despite the classes, I learned things from this article that I didn't learn at the church. SDA is definitely not a cult in my opinion but a well-organized and caring religion.

savvydating (author) on May 08, 2017:

Thank you dear, Yoleen. Nice to see you back! You are correct. The SDA church is not a cult, not even remotely. I used to attend Vacation Bible School as a little kid and it was quite fun. Not one person tried to brainwash me. Lol.

I'm actually amazed that anyone would believe such things about SDA's.

I am glad you were able to attend Camp. No doubt, it must have been a great reprieve from the turmoil of the inner city. Thank you for speaking kindly about the Church. Some of the comments I received were so vile, I had to contact HP. They agreed with me.;)

Anyhoo....appreciate your stopping by, girlfriend.

Yoleen Lucas from Big Island of Hawaii on May 08, 2017:

Hi, Savvy Dating!

I have been out of the loop for awhile myself, busy with other projects, but have been checking in HubPages from time to time. As a result, I am just now finding this article.

The SDA church saved my life many times. Growing up in sinful Oakland CA, it enabled me to escape the penitentiary otherwise known as Oakland Public High schools. I attended Pinecrest Camp, operated by SDAs near Lake Tahoe, for 8 glorious summers; many of my best childhood memories were made there.

I love the healthy and wholesome culture promoted by Adventists! No, it is NOT a cult!

savvydating (author) on May 03, 2017:

MsDora.....I had no idea! How wonderful to hear that our Christian upbringing is so similar, well, except for my also being raised Catholic. Actually, you are the one who is a great example, but thank you for the generous compliment just the same. It's not everyday that I run into someone who understands the church fully. I am thrilled to learn this lovely fact about your background!!

Yes indeed, my brother and I have the greatest respect for SDA's. Always have. Always will. As a side note, please feel free to call me either savvy or Yves. Both names work for me! Lol.

Dora Weithers from The Caribbean on May 03, 2017:

Yves, as a product of Adventist education, you are a great example. I've been an Adventist -still am-since childhood, and I couldn't write on this topic any better than you did. Yes, the Adventists excel in their education and health programs, and they are mainstream Christians with great emphasis on healthy living. Happy that and your brother have such high regard for my church.

savvydating (author) on April 19, 2017:

Hi Nell....Personally, I didn't find them controlling, but then, unlike my brother, I didn't stress over all the rules. Hahaha! SDA's are actually down-to-earth people. I truly enjoyed attending their schools. I also attended Catholic schools, as well----if you can imagine that. Lol.

Thanks for stopping by Nell. So happy you found the hub interesting, dear lady.

Nell Rose from England on April 19, 2017:

To be honest we don't get to hear about them over here in England so this was pretty interesting. As for saying that they are too controlling etc, I think many of them are but if you are happy then what's it to do with others? I think they sound fine!

Suzie from Carson City on April 19, 2017:

Yves & Alan.....Can I tell you? All the doubt, confusion and anxiety I deal with daily, blows my ego to smithereens!!! I use the word, "Help," a whole lot!!...........Hugs

savvydating (author) on April 19, 2017:

No ego, anxiety, confusion, argument etc., is a tall order for humans. Personally, I try to be more relaxed about making mistakes and in realizing I am quite flawed--- otherwise I would be anxious every minute. Lol. Thanks for stopping by again, Alan.

jonnycomelately on April 18, 2017:

Kingdom come, kingdom go, it matters not in the slightest.

The Here and Now is where it all happens. This is the moment the "I" meets Eternity. The Still Small Voice of Consciousness, of Awareness, of knowing what is is Here that each of us is central to the Kingdom. No argument; no doubt; no confusion; no anxiety; no ego. Just At One With The Universe, yet each of us with a special, unique part to play in the unfolding of that Divine Consciousness.

Each to our own journey in life.

savvydating (author) on April 18, 2017:

John....Thank you for a beautiful message and prayer. You are a man of faith and graciousness. I appreciate you and your strong Catholic faith.

John Ward from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada. on April 17, 2017:

To kingdom Come. I am not going to debate with you on whether you think, or choose to believe I read the Bible or not. I am a catholic and a member of the Franciscan Order. As a Franciscan we pray the Bible and study it every day. But you may not in your mind believe that or not. It is your choice but I do suggest that you God has given us two ears and two eyes but only one mouth. He had a good reason for this and it was that we should at least listen twice and look or discern twice before we speak once. My Blessing to you and my prayer for you is that you learn to think at least four times before you speak or go into attack MODE. May Our Lord and our God Bless you and give you the gift of his grace and the benefit of his Patience and Wisdom.

savvydating (author) on April 14, 2017:

Tsad, get a grip. I have not attacked you or anyone. You went too far long ago by insulting my intelligence and by making outlandishly erroneous claims about my statements, not to mention, trying to cover over your comments with half-truths. You are no longer welcome here. If you continue to use bullying tactics, I will alert HP. I have no doubt whatsoever that they will be able to sort out the truth, just as they have with the other two who spoke wrongly, and who are now noticeably absent.

savvydating (author) on April 13, 2017:

Your links re: criticisms about SDA's are posted, Tsad. Any reasonable person can see for themselves. There are flashing red Pop up's about angel pictures for sale& figurescwithout supporting facts. That is not serious content.

The SDA church is quite small, yet they have done some wonderful things.

If the guy who runs Florida Hospital is paid well, then I'm sure he deserves it. It's one of the finest hospitals in the U.S. I provided readers with reputable sources. You have not.

I am sorry you have chosen to speak to me in this manner. It is unfortunate and uncalled for. It seems to me that theological prejudice does not suit you or anyone.

Surely you've realize that every single church has its critics. The SDA church is only one of many who withstand criticism.

Please refrain from twisting my words or being sarcastic in the future. Such speech is not useful or God-centered.

savvydating (author) on April 13, 2017:

Tsad, I am beginning to wonder whether you are a friend or a foe. All the sites you have listed are sub-standard. First there was CERN, which is a nonsensical wordpress blog, and now these links re: Florida Hospital, which by the way, is one of the highest ranking hospitals in the nation according to Becks Hospital Review and other prestigious publications, such as U.S. News & World Report Best Hospitals.

You are smarter than that. Let us not insult the intelligence of readers. For information that is actually trustworthy, see this:

KingdomCome from those of the Ecclesia on April 13, 2017:

John Ward- Obviously you don't understand the bible you claim to read or else you would see the falsehoods that Yves is spewing in the article. You are the one LACKING.

savvydating (author) on April 12, 2017:

celafoe, I have deleted your two recent posts of minutes ago. Making fun is of anything or anyone childish---to say the least. Frankly, you went too far. I do not plan on accepting any more of your comments unless they serve to alert HP of bullying practices on your part. Just so you know...

savvydating (author) on April 12, 2017:

Thank you, John. No doubt, the SDA church had some "odd" beginnings, yet they certainly believe in the same Christ who lived, was crucified; who was resurrected, and who will return again to judge the living and the dead.

There is no question that theological differences exist between all true Christian sects, but what is that compared to the truth of the living Christ and what he came to teach mankind?

How good of you to say something even if your church is not the same as those I grew up with. You inspire me. That being said, I am not a good example of a Christian. But you, on the other hand, strive to be. Thank you for that.

John Ward from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada. on April 12, 2017:

Kingdom Come obviously has no sense. For this Lack I can forgive. Yves is not a liar and I can not see the sense o personal attacks. Right or wrong, Personal attacks, Like any Violence does not produce any better understanding or donate any further growth in a discussion. A debate is to create at least one winner and a loser. A discussion improves understanding and builds growth. It helps to develop good relationships. Try it in the future. John SFO?TOF

John Ward from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada. on April 12, 2017:

To charlie. Check your definition of Cult. NO!! The SDA is not, and I repeat, not a Cult. It may have started out that way, but now is one of the smaller denominations.

savvydating (author) on April 12, 2017:

Personal attacks are not permitted. I have allowed this comment only as an example of what not to do and for HP to review.

savvydating (author) on April 12, 2017:

I understand, Tsad, and I do appreciate what you mean by doctrine & scriptural context. I did not back up everything SDA's have said with scripture because it would become too tedious---not to mention Hubpages Help section warns against it, most likely because all the references can become cumbersome. However, SDA's do reference scripture consistently. That being said, many churches have different views.

I have Good Friday off, thank goodness. I'll be sure to rest. Thank you for reaching out, Tsad. I hope all is well on your end. :)

savvydating (author) on April 12, 2017:

How kind of you, johnnycomelately. Thank you for your words of encouragement. They mean a great deal to me. Yes, you and I come from different schools of thought, but we are all fellow humans struggling to live this life the best we know how. Some more than others. Lol.

savvydating (author) on April 12, 2017:

Thank you Flourish! My brother and I were treated well by both religions. To this day, we simply focus on the basic tenets of Christianity. Works for us!

Yes, some of the comments here are definitely not "Christ-like."

Thank you for stopping by & for actually reading the article. Lol.

jonnycomelately on April 11, 2017:

Yvette, I speak here as one who does not accept any of the premises put forward by any Christian doctrine, therefore you and I would be on two sides of the fence, so to speak. But I fully respect you for stating all that you have in this well-written hub. I feel no need to argue any of it with you, totally accepting you background and consequential points of view. You display a lot of love and tolerance to others who are in disagreement. That, in my understanding, is spirituality, getting to know depths of one's true nature....something which the so-called Christians here seem to know very little about.

So, Yves, keep your feet firmly on the ground; continue the journey of your life as you feel committed.

Those who belong to the WBC (The Wholly Bigotted Church) will feel very successful when they arrive back here on Earth and find they had been paving the streets of Hell with hatred for much of their lives.

FlourishAnyway from USA on April 11, 2017:

I read every word of this article and found it interesting. Although not my personal beliefs, I liked knowing more about your background. When you have parents of different religious backgrounds, it can be challenging to sort out the message. However, you and your brother have found it to be a positive growth experience. Some of the comments here are just vile. Wow.

savvydating (author) on April 11, 2017:

What religion do you follow, KingdomCome? I am disappointed with your spitefulness. I have not attacked you. Please do not attack me or one of the churches I was raised in. Thank you.

savvydating (author) on April 11, 2017:

Faith-hope-love, The SDA church is a small denomination. You are correct about that. You're a good man. Thank you for reading this article. It's something different to know about.

John Ward from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada. on April 11, 2017:

I had never given any thought to what or where the SDA was. I had always thought that it was a small denomination, not a cult. your article has give me something to think about. Taught me a lot, never to old to learn new things.

savvydating (author) on April 11, 2017:

KingdomCome.....Of course they know that commandment. Loving one another is their thing if they are true to their faith. That's why SDA's have hospitals, missions and orphanages around the world----to help and love people. Desmond Doss was a great example of what it means to love. He literally placed his life above others.

savvydating (author) on April 11, 2017:

Hi Paula....I've stayed out of the loop for a little while to write this piece. I'm glad you enjoyed the article!! I had no idea it it would make some people mad. LOL. I've had to delete two comments that were NOT nice! But anyway, thank you for saying I wasn't funny looking. I do have other baby pictures where I looked better, but I liked that one. I never skied because I was the poor kid, but I did by best to "rock" the outfit. Hahaha. BTW, as an aside, I recommend the movie, Hacksaw Ridge. It's really good! Thanks for commenting and being nice to me. Lol. It's always a pleasure to hear from you, Paula! ;)

savvydating (author) on April 11, 2017:

KingdomCome....I have the impression that your heart is not filled with the love of Christ. I have updated the hub to include the Baptismal vows.

KingdomCome from those of the Ecclesia on April 11, 2017:

You stated that the SDA follow the ten commandment. What about the New Commandment that Jesus gave which is discribed in John 13:34 (NKJV) which states: 34 A New Commandment I give to you, that you love one another AS "I" HAVE LOVED YOU, that you also love one another.

I know the SDA do not follow this one because they have NEVER listed it or MENTIONED it ever. SDA have NO idea this NEW COMMANDMENT even exists.

Suzie from Carson City on April 11, 2017:

Hey Girlfriend, where ya been hiding? I knew Zero about SDA but now have the first-hand information you have provided here. I will rarely discuss religion and surely would not comment on one I have no experience with except to say Thank you, for the mini tutorial. Your excellent writing skills held my interest.

What I would like to say is that the picture of you, your brother & Mom is as precious as can be. How dare you refer to yourself as "funny-looking!" That is one beautiful family and not a one of you could deny each other! You & your brother both resemble your lovely Mother ~~even without seeing a photo of Dad.

BTW, you didn't need to model the "fur" for "added" attention! Did you ski too...or just model as a skiier? LOL Peace, Paula

savvydating (author) on April 11, 2017:

Tsad....CARM is not an SDA site. Matt Slick, the founder of CARM, is not a real Christian apologetic. He spins the truth, uses half truths and even makes things up outright, as he as done in the link you provided. Slick is not an honest man. The link I gave you is the official site for SDA's. If I must post the 14 Baptismal sayings, I will do so. They are nothing like what Slick claims.

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