Chinese History: The White Tribes of Ancient China

Updated on April 9, 2019
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Nell is fascinated by ancient history, archaeology, and ancestry. Where do we come from? And what makes us the way we are today?

An Artists impression of what this mummie possibly looked like when alive.
An Artists impression of what this mummie possibly looked like when alive.

4,000 Year Old Lost Tribe

One of the most fantastic finds in the last half of the twentieth century has to be the discovery of a Northern European tribe found in the northeast corner of Xinjiang province, near the Celestial Mountains and the Taklimakan Desert on the edge of the Gobi desert.

The story starts in 1978 when the Chinese archaeologist, Wang Binghus, started searching for ancient sites. He began by following stream beds, and asking the locals if they had ever come across any broken pots and artifacts. He eventually came across a few people who pointed out that there was a place called Qizilchoqa, or, as the local people called it, Red hill. Here he made the most amazing discovery, the first of the mummies. It had been placed in a grave on the side of the hill.

He looks like he is sleeping, but he is over 4,000 years old!
He looks like he is sleeping, but he is over 4,000 years old!

It was a simple site, rush mats were on the floor, and some of the bodies were buried in the foetal position. In effect, the mummies were not what you would call real mummies, in the sense that they were not embalmed. They had been preserved in an amazing way. They had been placed in the ground, which had been subjected to a unique weather system. Heat, aridity, and bitter winter cold, mixed with a salty soil, had preserved them better than other mummies found around the world. Even the clothing was still perfectly recognizable.

Tarim 42
Tarim 42

The bodies were excavated and taken to the museum in the city of Urumqi. There were 113 bodies taken from the site. At the time the Chinese government did not have enough funds to excavate the find. Wang eventually discovered three more burial sites.

The faces of the mummies were very well preserved, so, on closer examination, they could see that they were not Chinese. They had blonde hair, big eyes, and European noses.

At that time, Chinese tradition had always shown the fact that they believed China had developed independently from the rest of the world. Because of this, the government was reluctant to bring the finds to the public attention.

But soon they realized that the proof was irrefutable.

Tarim - map where the mummies were found
Tarim - map where the mummies were found
The tarim mummies
The tarim mummies

The Mummies of China

The most extraordinary thing about the mummies was the fact that their clothes were in such good condition. A jacket belonging to one man, over three thousand years old, still had a crimson edge. And the women had artificial extensions in their hair.

This tribe was obviously very advanced for its day. On one of the mummies, there is a scar which shows they had rudimentary operating skills. It had been sown up with horses hair.

Mummie of Tarim The beauty of loulan..
Mummie of Tarim The beauty of loulan..

When the West was eventually allowed to visit the mummies, Dr. Victor Mair, who was a Professor of Chinese at Pennsylvania University, took a tour around the museum. Imagine his surprise when he saw these amazing mummies, which had been kept in a dark room, in glass-topped boxes.

At this time, the Chinese authorities were still a bit reluctant to let anybody know about them, so it has taken quite a long time for the West to be able to study them properly.

Eventually in 1993, they were allowed back with a team of geneticists from Italy. And this is when they began to study them properly. They used the most up to date technology of the time to confirm the date of the mummies. They now believe that they are about 4,000 years old, and the youngest about 2,000. There are probably many more to be found, possibly in the same region of China, but it is also possible they could have settled anywhere in China, as long as the conditions were suitable to live in.

Is this the original Witches hat that has come down through history? Maybe genetic memory is involved!
Is this the original Witches hat that has come down through history? Maybe genetic memory is involved!
Atlantean Gardens - wording.
Atlantean Gardens - wording.

These people were from the Bronze age, they were Caucasian, and it is possible that they interacted with the indigenous people at that time. The local people probably taught them their traditions, and the Caucasians most likely introduced them to their way of life as well.

There were two cartwheels found at the burial sites, very similar to what you might find in Russia, or nearby countries. These amazing people were probably Scandinavian or German; it is amazing to think that they trekked across China all the way from Europe, 4,000 years ago, taking their traditions and language with them. How many other tribes were there? Who knows?

The Beauty of Loulan Mummie artists impression
The Beauty of Loulan Mummie artists impression

I think that one of the most fascinating things about this story is that the local people, even today, that live in the area where the bodies were found speak a language called Tocharian, the most eastern branch of Indo-European.

This language is closely related to German and Celtic. I think the other most amazing thing about these people is that they walked all the way across China, taking with them their families, and a mixture of animals, probably goats and sheep.

Feeling the cold, and the heat, catching diseases that they didn't know anything about, unsure whether they would survive the different climate. Babies were born, people died, and all the time not knowing whether they would be safe or if the indigenous people would accept them.

Their lust for adventure and discovering new places gave them strength and determination to survive. They were amazing people, and I hope that soon we will be able to see these wonderful discoveries and learn more about these courageous human beings that came from the beginning of history.

Tarim mummies
Tarim mummies

Questions & Answers

  • What was the race of Chinese people?

    There were various tribes back in history who lived in what we now call China. As you can see the white tribe lived there, along with many other nationalities, such as Russians, on the border.

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    • Nell Rose profile imageAUTHOR

      Nell Rose 

      5 weeks ago from England

      Hi Henry, always good to see you. lol! not sure how that would work, but I would love to see it.

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      Henry Crawford 

      6 weeks ago

      Hi again, Miss Nell!

      I know this comment is kind-of late, but I just wanna thank you for your answer and state I just saw someone on American Ninja Warrior, who is from the same Neuro-Tribe as me (He's Autistic) and he managed to cleara 5 obstacles on the show!

      Would it be okay if I trained as hard as (Or harder) than he did and went on the show to represent the Tarim Mummies as well as the animals, forests, mountains, deserts, and tundras of Earth?

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      Nell Rose 

      6 weeks ago from England

      I delete all racist comments. And please do not call yourself God, there is only one. or perhaps two or three all depending on which religion you are. But that's not you.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 weeks ago from England

      lol! thanks for reading Henry. I can't answer that, but thanks for reading it.

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      Henry Crawford 

      7 weeks ago

      Hi there, Miss Nell!

      I just love this article! It would be so awesome if we were to find out if these Tarim Mummies were in fact Celtic. But please let me ask you this: Would these Tarim mummies teach me their way of life or even hug me? I'd gladly appreciate an answer...Cheers!

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      Nell Rose 

      2 months ago from England

      Thanks for your thoughts Debbie. I am afraid I cannot allow all the comments, as it takes too much room. Maybe write it down in a hub?

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      Nell Rose 

      2 months ago from England

      These mummies were from outside China. Nobody really knows exactly where they are from. But thank you for your comment.

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      Debbie Marcum 

      2 months ago

      Cave of Treasure's .. After Adam died later they one by one came down from cave of treasure's . We waited for the Angels to come after Adam's body . No one can go to this place for when we came down we was told we could never go back ....

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      Debbie Marcum 

      2 months ago

      Today we are at the end time's We are Aryan and the Lost Tribe's of Door's of no Return ... None of you accepted us and cast us out your land's . When you wipe us out your end is here . God bless .Northern Kingdom ... All who rejected us will be stricken from the book of life ..

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      Debbie Marcum 

      2 months ago

      They came from the Cave of Treasure's .. My people was last to come down .....We past other places but refuse to tell for african stealing our history .. We are from Seth ...... Paleo Indian's and we landed off Inland of china and went down silk road ............ WE are from Adam and Eve .....

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      JPAG 

      2 months ago

      Interesting article, but red hair? Sorry, not wanting to offend, at least with regard to the pictures shown, it's brown hair, not red. I'm from southern Europe (Portugal) and a a large part of the people of my country have hair of that colour. And, by the way, the first picture is an old woman not a blond one. True red hair is in Ireland, and in your country (U.K.), not from the Tarim mummies.

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      Nell Rose 

      3 months ago from England

      Maybe Tim, but I believe these may have been before Dan? But you may be right! I will have to investigate,

      thanks as always.

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      Tim Truzy 

      3 months ago from U.S.A.

      Interesting article, Nell. I wonder about this group, and this is right up your investigative alley - could they have been somehow related to the lost Tribe of Dan? I truly enjoyed your work. superb as always. And happy late Mother's Day! Respect and admiration, Tim

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      Nell Rose 

      3 months ago from England

      Yes, I agree Mike. People travelled everywhere back then, but its amazing isn't it? thanks for reading.

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      Mike Wilken 

      4 months ago

      Very informative! It is too early in my opinion to speculate where these people came from, rather than being from Europe, it may they are from a stock that earlier or later emigrated to Europe

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      Nell Rose 

      4 months ago from England

      That's great thank you!

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      Nell Rose 

      7 months ago from England

      Thank you Jake that is very kind.

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      Jake 

      7 months ago

      Your article was amazing I loved it

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      Ned 

      7 months ago

      What you all do not realise is that these people along with the Aryans of India are R1a1 slavic and that is why it is not being fully told only vague suggestions of possible German or Celtic origin.

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      Nell Rose 

      10 months ago from England

      Thanks Dohn for reading.

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      dohn121 

      10 months ago from Hudson Valley, New York

      Fanstastic find Nell. Learning about ancient civilizations is certainly a hobby of mine. I enjoyed reading and discovering these amazing findings right alongside of you!

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      Nell Rose 

      10 months ago from England

      Hi Maria, I first found out about them in a newspaper years ago but there is quite a lot on the internet about them. Here's the wiki link for you.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies

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      Maria Dorb 

      10 months ago

      Hello, I would like to ask where did you find those pieces of information about those mummies? Your references? I've been trying to find valid information about Chinese mummies in the wed for some time now...

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      Nell Rose 

      11 months ago from England

      Really Defne? How interesting! thanks for letting me know. I wish they would show this on tv, it would be great watching.

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      Defne 

      11 months ago

      The area is not Chinese but Turkic Uyghur area , they were always there , Chinese occupied that land , look at the map you will see Turkish names "Tarim" which means land for farming and the river name "Aksu" means white water . If you look at world's DNA map you will see that this area only area in all Assia that includes "R" DNA

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      Lilly 

      11 months ago

      Seriously, that's all they came up with? They must be Germans?! :-D That's exactly why they tend not to tell everything - all those ancient excavations have nothing to do with Germans. And yet somehow they always create nonsense theories based on no evidence that those advanced civilizations were Germanic, although nothing, but nothing except their huge wish connects them(Germans) with those civilizations. "Germanic or Celtic language" - do those two have anything in common? Comparing those two languages is like comparing ass and eye. Nothing in common.

      Did anyone think that they might not come from Europe at all? Why would they have to move only to Europe from India(Indo-Europians were "Indo" before they became Europians; They lived in India and Persia white as they had been before they moved to Europe). One part of them could move directly from India or Persia to China. But, Gosh, they couldn't be Germans then...

      One would think that they would stop with those sick lies after the WW2. Guess some things never change...

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      Nell Rose 

      11 months ago from England

      Thanks Mike, yes you could be right. For some reason its never really shown on tv or magazines. I do wonder why. Its history, nothing to cover up.

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      mikebs323 

      11 months ago

      Nice article. From my research I believe there was wood found on site ,even boats . Now that sample should define exactly were these people came from. The one lady has ink or paint on her face and other pictures show her right am and entire hand being covered in design. That surely is art and can be traced to a certain tribe. I don't think the whole story is being told ,or if it ever will be.

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      Nell Rose 

      13 months ago from England

      Not sure to be honest Nathan. I have a feeling there is a few videos on youtube about it. good luck, and thank you.

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      Nathan 

      13 months ago

      Fantastic article! really does shine some new light. Is there anymore information out there about this?

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      Nell Rose 

      14 months ago from England

      Jennifer, I have no idea what you are talking about. you obviously have commented on an article that is not this one. This article is about white tribes that lived on the edge of China 4 thousand years ago! there are over a 1,000 mummies to prove it. I will now report you for abuse. And I feel sorry for you. You obviously have an issue. And thankfully this hub is nothing to do with you.

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      Nell Rose 

      14 months ago from England

      Thank you Conor, that would be interesting.

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      Conor 

      14 months ago

      Interesting article!

      I don't know too much about Chinese mythology, but i once read something about a land to the west where they believed the people who lived beyond the mountains were gods.

      I'm sorry i cant remember what it was called, but will comment again If i do.

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      Nell Rose 

      14 months ago from England

      Thanks John, I will do that, and thank you! sounds fascinating!

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      John L 

      14 months ago

      My best anthropological guess is that this Indo-European diaspora was most likely the result of the sudden flooding of the Black Sea area, around 5600BC, where agriculture was already established. The resulting post glacial flooding led to a great migration/dispersion, and also the original Great Flood stories. Unfortunately most of the area is underwater and excavation is not feasible. If you are not familiar with this, look up "Ryan and Pitman" and the Great Flood hypothesis.

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      Nell Rose 

      17 months ago from England

      Thanks Forrest England, glad you liked it.

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      Forrest England 

      17 months ago

      Fascinating article. History fascinates me. Please write more items. Thanks.

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      Nell Rose 

      17 months ago from England

      Now you have my attention! LOL! I have always believed that fairy tales are based to a certain degree on reality, so I look forward to reading it, and thanks!

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      :Tim:Kelly 

      17 months ago

      Hi Nell, i would urge you to read the book i am currently reading which has put many "attractions" of my life into focus... the history of the red haired, green/blue eyed folk known as Dragon/Grail/Fairy/Elven bloods, direct descendents from the Annunaki (children of god/shining ones) and is labelled as the official history of their race by Nicholas De Vere titled "The Dragon Legacy" or "From Transylvania to Twickenham". it makes clear why these red haired folk are found all over the world in ancient times as they were wise and "connected" rulers and had many client races around the world who engaged their services. They formed a caste system with the wisest of Druidhe class as advisors to the Temporal or Grail King class and then Swan Warriors who protected the Swan/Grail Maidens who were the actual repository for the wisdom of the druids and kings... the method i will leave you to discover, but it has brought together so much since i was a child and noticed how fairy tales seemed ubiquitous so must have basis in reality... here is a link, but i advise buying the book as it is serious study rather than a read, so not best done online... I think it will supply much that you wonder about. Here is link : https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dragons/esp_soc... Enjoy! (if you so choose)

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      Nell Rose 

      18 months ago from England

      Thanks MJ, I am in the process of getting mine done to! lol!

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      MJ 

      18 months ago

      Very interesting article. Love history and since getting my DNA tested am even more so. Thank you so much for this article.

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      Nell Rose 

      19 months ago from England

      Thanks Yurdaer, yes you may be right there! thanks for reading.

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      Yurdaer 

      19 months ago

      They are ancestors of the Turks.

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      Nell Rose 

      6 years ago from England

      Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Coward? Hardly, I don't even care about your comments as they are not even remotely interesting to me. I wrote this article a long time ago. From factual sources. I have no interest in it now.

      I have closed the comments on advisement.

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      Shri Mc 

      6 years ago

      Tribal jews have always lived among Chinese, Burma and India without too much conflict. China spoke of them as those with the brown hair. Some would think this meant white people but it could very well be lost tribes.

      Hi Nell, missed you much and glad to be back.

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      Nell Rose 

      6 years ago from England

      My article was taken from valid archaeological reports dating through the 90s. Every single source said the above. There was no proof that they were 'controlled' by the Chinese people! the white tribes and the Chinese learned and taught each other. Please show verification of your claims as I would love to read them. As for being the Richest nation, it may well have been, but of course western people have made many inventions too, most of them what you are using today, in fact most of the world is using the Wests inventions more so than any other countries around the world. thanks for reading.

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      Amwftruth 

      6 years ago

      THERE IS SO MANY FABRICATIONS

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      1. The mummies are in a country called " EAST TURKISTAN" the people who live there are Uyghurs (related with Tocharians) which is 600 miles away from the heart of Chinese civilization. The Chinese communist incorporated it in 1949 just like Tibet.

      2. The genetic Tocharian are most similar to Iranians not Europeans.

      3. If these White tribes were so advanced how come they were ruled and controlled by Chinese people for 500 years? Chinese was the richest nation, and had many rich invention. Hangzhou: The Finest and Most Noble City in the World According to Marco Polo.

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      Nell Rose 

      6 years ago from England

      Hi truth, I quite believe that, we always tend to have a steriotype of idea about people, the one that always makes me smile is my friend who speaks very posh English, the thing is, she is Irish! the part of Ireland she comes from actually do have an English accent! thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Marie Hurt 

      6 years ago from New Orleans, LA

      Everyone is much more connected than we think we are. The first thing people say when I tell them my mom is Japanese is "oh, she must not be 100% because you don't have slanted eyes." Well, guess what? She is 100% and I am half. We can look many different ways, and we are not always so different.

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      Nell Rose 

      6 years ago from England

      Thanks Lizzy, yes its so fascinating and it just goes to show how we travelled around the world a lot more than we thought, thanks, nell

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      Liz Elias 

      6 years ago from Oakley, CA

      Oh, this is interesting, indeed, Nell. I do think I saw a program about this on the History Channel a few years back, if memory serves. It just goes to show the "us/them" attitude is rather wrong-minded....

      Voted up, interesting and shared.

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      Nell Rose 

      6 years ago from England

      You people? I do have a name, and yes I did read this information from a scientific source, which by the way you write I presume you don't have!

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      Paul B. 

      6 years ago

      You People need to understand about the indo-europeans to understand who the red headed people of northern china where

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      Nell Rose 

      6 years ago from England

      Thanks jainismus, glad you liked it, nell

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      Mahaveer Sanglikar 

      6 years ago from Pune, India

      Very interesting information.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi Shri Mc, that sounds fascinating, I will have to go and take a look, thanks so much for reading, cheers nell

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      Shri Mc 

      7 years ago

      This is incredible news that we keep me busy for some time now. I am more familure with Menashe culture which was original dispora out of Egypt thru Persia but as far as the mountain regions of China.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi Green Bard, thanks so much, it is a fascinating subject, I would love to see it shown on tv, and updated. I think there are many different tribes that migrated around the world at that time, it will be interesting to see what is discovered next, thanks nell

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      Steve Andrews 

      7 years ago from Tenerife

      I have heard about this somewhere before but you have really covered the subject really well and I have voted Up and tagged as Awesome. I am also sharing on my Facebook wall.

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      DON Gargano 

      7 years ago

      Caucasian as a name shuld not be politicaly correct.

      I Dont like the american way of forging the history. Americ is aroudn 230 years old. where everyone that "looks" european is called caucasian . Cos its build on a missbelife that the white race is from "caucasus" today's south Russia. Which is false. White race shuld be called Indo-European , its better clarification. Cos even how you make it ....The first civilzation outside africa was India, that is a fact. And the mongol race, and white race is all made out of Indian people. However the white race was developed in north india , which is today's Iran and Pakistan, afganistan (afgans is called Scandinavian race) even in US. Not caucasian.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi Larry, yes I think there are so many mixtures of race around the globe. Going back that far in time it doesn't surprise me that caucasians were in china, and who knows maybe chinese people lived in England or America too! thanks again, nell

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      Larry Fields 

      7 years ago from Northern California

      Hi Nell. Great article and amazing photos. Voted up and shared.

      A long time ago, I met a physician from Kazakhstan. His facial features were halfway between Caucasian and Chinese. That squares with photos I've seen from other Central Asian republics.

      There was one surprise from a few years ago. I've also looked at photos of Sami people, also known as Laplanders. (They live in the Northern parts of Sweden, Norway and Finland.) As expected, most look like Europeans.

      However I remember one photo of a nomadic Sami family from the early 20th Century. Their features were very Asian. Human prehistory is probably more complex than we think it is.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi, alocsin, thanks for reading, it is fascinating isn't it? We still don't understand everything about pre history, its an amazing subject, thanks

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      Aurelio Locsin 

      7 years ago from Orange County, CA

      This is fascinating -- I'd seen something about this on TV. It shows that people back then used to travel around a lot -- probably more than we realize. Voting this Up and Interesting.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi, Jeff, I read this and went straight over to take a look at the Red Deer people, Wow! how many more species of humanoids are there out there? amazing! yes the homo floresiensis was fascinating, I suppose its easier to call it the hobbit! lol! for some reason, scientists can be stupid sometimes! lol! they believed that because they were tiny they must have been pretty dim minded, but I don't agree, there are tiny people around today who are as intelligent as the rest of us, but its amazing how many types are being found these days, along with the new Deer people, we have, as I said above, the homo floresiensis, and of course the Denisovans, the Tuyul are probably the 'hobbit's too, amazing stuff, I have added the link below because I wrote about that too, hope you like it, and thanks again, nell

      Denisovans:

      https://hubpages.com/education/Denisovans-A-New-Ex...

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      Jeff 

      7 years ago

      Nell,

      check out the Red Deer Cave People too. They're a non human hominid species discovered in China recently. Maybe you can find out what kind of remains were found because I sure haven't been able to so far. (I'm kind of lazy sometimes.) The only Solutrian remains were a finger bone and a tooth, so I'm hoping this find is more extensive. (Hard to imagine one less extensive!) I still don't believe Solutrians were any different than Neanderthals, but who knows?

      The Red Deer find seems at least as cool as the mini homo erectus bones found in that cave in Flores Indonesia. The dorks who "discovered" the site (they were led to it by locals) stupidly called the little guys Hobbits. I'm sure you've heard of them. I used to live in Indonesia and they have folk tales of "Tuyul"- small people who like to steal small objects and food like pack rats and those birds I cant remember the name of due to incipient senility. I think they still exist in Flores and probably Java and other islands too. Wouldn't it be cool if somebody found them? Of course, it would be cool if somebody proved Sasquatches exist and that hasn't happened either.

      Later!

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi, again Jeff, Wow! I am going to investigate after writing this, there is so much there that I didn't know, its funny that you should mention the spear and the helicopter because I remember seeing that in the newspaper! thanks for all the great info, you have certainly got my interest now! lol! thanks so much, I am off to investigate, nell

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      Jeff 

      7 years ago

      P.S.,

      I forget to mention that both films about the Solutrians are available for free online. Just search for them by name and they pop right up. I wish somebody would make a film about the Andaman Islanders, but the ones who live primitively (the Islands are territories of India and ethnic Indians live on at least one of them in very limited numbers,) don't want outsiders coming around. Until recently shipwrecked sailors were routinely murdered and the only film of an Islander I've seen was of a man throwing a spear at a helicopter that came by to see if they were O.K. after the same tsunami that devastated Aceh in Indonesia awhile back hit the Andamans. I guess they didn't need any help!

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      Jeff 

      7 years ago

      Nell,

      I read the article Ron linked to and thought you might be interested in the following info because that story contained a lot of factual errors.

      The "Negroid type (Blacks)" he referred to still exist. The Negrito race (it's a separate race and despite the name "little Negro" they aren't Negroes) is extant in parts of Southeast Asia, Indonesia, the Philippines and some other islands, though except for in the Andaman Islands in the Indian Ocean most of them are now racially mixed. Many of the Andaman islanders are so isolated and primitive they still live in their own stone age and don't even know how to start fires. In fact, they are the most isolated population on the planet. Their population group (race) is as old as the Australian Aborigines-who are Caucasians-and the Bushmen, who are also a separate race. These three races are the oldest on the planet but not even population geneticists can tell which one is the oldest-much to the chagrin of racists and racial bigots the world over.

      Another blow to racists and racial bigots? Mongoloids, American Indians and Negroes are all descended from Caucasians, though the original population couldn't have possibly been of the Nordic type that most people erroneously attribute to all "White" people. (Very light skin and an unparalleled diversity of hair and eye colors.) Worse yet to the bigots is that Negroes are the youngest race on the planet. This only matters to a bigot of course, but it never fails to amaze me what can be important to some bigots.

      There are Indian artifacts and remains in the Americas older than any proved to be Negrito, and the artifacts at a habitation site of European hunters found in the Carolinas is the oldest yet. However, that doesn't prove either group was there before the other, much less before the Negritos. If the Negritos did make it to the New World, they were likely the first people to do so, because the Indians were the only people living there when Europeans rediscovered it (though some Eastern tribes showed signs of racial mixing with Caucasians.) That would mean the Indians had supplanted the Negritos. The Kenniwick remains found in Washington state could easily have been those of a Negrito but thanks to political correctness we may never know. The state stupidly turned them over for interment to a local Indian tribe that claimed a fictitious ancestral link.

      I hope you find this information useful. Due to political correctness it's not well known, but it is fascinating. You can find plenty of info and photos about the Andaman Islanders with a web search. The Discovery Channel (if I remember correctly) made a documentary about the Europeans who apparently traveled to America 17500 years ago called "Solutrians: The First Americans" that was very good. There was even a movie called "Ice Age Columbus." (I saw that one on Discovery for sure.) It was pretty good, though as usual the stone age humans were portrayed as being barely able to survive in a hostile environment-something that flies in the face of all known facts. The savage and deadly mega-fauna of North America went extinct shortly after the arrival of Indian hunters and the cave bears and lions of Europe didn't last long after Homo Sapiens arrived. I agree with the theory that man was the apex hunter of the last Ice-Age.

      Cheers!

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi, Jeff, thanks for reading, yes I totally agree with you, I remember seeing a TV documentary about China. Its a shame that people want to change history, if these mummies are there then it tells its own story, I am sure that back then the white tribe of China and the local populace actually did get on, but its sad that modern countries seem to insist on their archaic ideas, glad you enjoyed it and thanks, nell

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      Jeff 

      7 years ago

      Great article Nell! I found it by chance and enjoyed it very much.

      There is no archeological evidence that anybody lived in the Red Hill area but Tocharians 4000 years ago--"Indigenous" or not. From what I remember they are among the anscestors of Scythians and some other steppe horsemen societies.

      Unfortunately, The "People's Republic" of China (Est. 1949) propagates a fictional history of a culture "5300" years old established by the mythical Han Chinese--who are claimed to be a race as well as a nationality. Most Chinese swallow this myth without even bothering to chew. This myth is also accepted by most Westerners who should know better but don't--for way too many reasons to go into here. Racial myths are common in totalitarian countries and China is no exception. (The muslim myth that the Near East is populated by Arabs is a similar example-also shared by most Westerners.) As you noted, the Chinese government originally supressed the existence of the Tocharians. It also claims the Tibetans are Han Chinese and that the Caucasian peoples in Western China are all outsiders. In fact, Chinese government apparatchiks claim that all the land encompassed by its borders-and then some-are traditional Han Chinese land.

      Apparently the jingoistic Miss Wu doesn't know the history of the Mandarins and their contributions to modern Chinese society--including its national language. The notion that China is a continuation of all the local cultures and so called Dynasties that came before it is preposterous. The notion that those cultures developed independantly and were all composed of a single race of pure blooded Han is perfectly ridiculous.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi, Winnie, facts are facts I am afraid, but who knows whether they did in fact interact with others or not? Maybe they just lived there in that part of China, thanks for reading, cheers nell

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      Winnie Wu 

      7 years ago

      I don't Think chinese han were mixed with any other races.

      Chinese Great Han come from Yellow river. we creat our own history and culture. totally different from Whites.

      Just some travleers not meaning anything. I imgrate to America is that means i bulid USA??? LOL, Chinese history start 5300 years ago, not in the place where mummie found out.

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      Nell Rose 

      7 years ago from England

      Hi, Ivona, there are so many tales or mummies found of european peoples appearing in different parts of the world. I believe we traveled far more than archaeologists say we did, our ancestors were explorers and travelers, and most of the rest of the world did too, thanks so much for reading, cheers nell

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      Ivona Poyntz 

      7 years ago from UK

      I never knew about this tribe: amazing! On a similar vein, I have been hearing some of the ancient egyptian pharoahs have european features as well.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, infinite, yes your right, it was amazing when they found these mummies because who would have thought it? It just goes to show that we know virtually nothing about ancient times, thanks nell

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      Infinite712 

      8 years ago

      Ancient people obviously traveled around a lot more than some would have you believe. Very interesting.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi,amanda thanks for reading it, I am so glad you liked it, cheers nell

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      xxmissamandaxx 

      8 years ago

      I am fascinated with all this. I love the culture and history so much and you wrote it out wonderfully! It was an excellent read.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, Docmo, thanks so much, I remember reading this a few years ago, and have been fascinated with it since then, I believe there must be so many other things out there that we just haven't discovered yet, cheers nell

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      Mohan Kumar 

      8 years ago from UK

      Amazing story and pics. I haven't heard of this before and it is great to learn of a new archaeological discovery. There are still so many hidden secrets from ancient civilisations- truly fascinating- voted up and awesome!

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, CMHypno, sorry it took so long, I have been away from my computer more these days. they are fascinating, aren't they? it just goes to show that there really is no 'this is my country'! I believe the world belongs to everybody, especially as it has changed so much in history, thanks again nell

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      CMHypno 

      8 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

      I have seen a couple of documentaries about these mysterious Chinese mummies and it is all very fascinating. Who knows what is still concealed beneath the earth, that will totally change our perceptions of history?

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, kesinee, thanks for reading it, cheers nell

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      Sranunta Lamduan 

      8 years ago from Bangkok, Thailand

      Hi Nell Rose, I have seen through your hubs and I really like it. The mysterous story about chinese is very cool hub. Chinese has a long history in Asia and there are many very intelligent ppl in the history those who influence other race or countries. Chinese mytery make your hub more intereting.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, SilentReed, thanks for reading it, I do love archaeology, and am always on the lookout for new info, cheers nell

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      SilentReed 

      8 years ago from Philippines

      I wonder why racial bigotry exist when the migration of ancient people that Archaeology is unearthing prove that interbreeding of our ancestors make us one family...Humans

      I only recently came across your historical hubs.they are providing me with many moments of delightful reading.Thank you.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, PaperNotes, thanks so much for reading it, this story fascinated me when I first came across it, anything like this gets my interest, thanks again nell

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      PaperNotes 

      8 years ago

      Yet again, you impressed me with such great hub!Full of knowledge and very interesting information. China is such a big country whose culture is very rich as well. I'm pretty sure there are a lot more interesting stories that lie beneath the soils of the land.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, Druid Dude, thanks for reading it, and the e-mail, interesting point, I am not sure about the Ark of the covenant though, one of the theories is that it is in Ethiopia, I think in this case the white people probably roamed the world, helping to set up towns and villages and then intermarried with the local population. I am sure that back in those days they traded wool, cloth etc and learned from each other, Highlanders could well have started plaid, but of course they could have copied it from past finds, interesting ideas though and thanks nell

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      Druid Dude 

      8 years ago

      Celtic is closer. They spoke Gaelic. Purest Gaelic on Earth is from the Isle of Man. One thing your article did not mention is the fact that Plaid was prevealent. Highlanders? The Ark of the covenant, by the by, is in Jerusalem. Surprised? Evidence is in front of us.

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, mr marshalle, sorry I never saw your comment, thanks for reading it, cheers nell

      Hi, GMaGoldie, this fascinated me for years, I first saw it in a newspaper about ten years ago, so I thought I would go and look to see what had happened since. It just goes to show how mixed up the races of the world are, we are not all separate at all, and that's what makes us all one big family, thanks so much nell

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      Kelly Kline Burnett 

      8 years ago from Madison, Wisconsin

      Absolutely fascinating. I have visited China and I cannot imagine all of this. You tell the story well - how courageous they must have been. And sewing with horse hair - how did they know. Thank you so much!

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      mr marshalle 

      8 years ago

      wonderful pictures

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      Nell Rose 

      8 years ago from England

      Hi, sujju, thanks so much for reading it, cheers nell

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      sujju 

      8 years ago from mangalore, india

      wonderful hub....very informative nbeautifully presented....thank u Nell....

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      Nell Rose 

      9 years ago from England

      Hi, qiang, wow isn't it amazing how just one thing can change what you do with your life, and your whole dynamics, I don't think they have actually shown the TV prgramme over here about it, but it must have been quite a while ago, thank you so much for writing again, and it is always nice to hear from you, cheers nell

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      qiang 

      9 years ago

      i remember when i first time watch the video as the archaeogists carefully open the grave. to my extramly surprise, a beautiful white woman lays inside. even after 4000 years, she still so beautiful. at the moment i did acctrully feel the touch through my heart. oh man, if i was there 4000 years ago, i would marry her.

      i am not kidding, it was acctrully the major reason that motived me to study in europ and america. and for all these wonderful time i have lived, it all started with the beautiful caucasian woman.

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      Nell Rose 

      9 years ago from England

      Hi, qiang, thank you for coming back, I remember seeing a TV programme about skull shapes, and even from one country to the next there are quite a few differences, I think that there are people in every country that always feel that they are only one culture or race, but would be surprised to discover that they are completely different to what they thought they were. I remember reading somewhere that in Scotland they found a lot of red haired men with caucasian faces actually came originally from Mongolia! it seems that Ghenkis Khan had so many children that they eventually migrated to Scotland and joined with the local picts! I was amused to read about your wife, and the fact that she has so many nationalities! lol I am sure your children will be lovely, I think that mixed race children from anywhere in the world always seem to have the exotic looks that we would all love to have! well, I would! lol thank you so much again, cheers nell

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      qiang 

      9 years ago

      according to some of surviving chinese history record, there were always people that can be related to caucasian in northern china. aside of dna related, several artifacts had been found in china which was indetinfied to be made during Zhou dynasty.those artifact have a very strong reflect of the caucasian culture. this can still be tracked today. especially through some surviving ancient metal work. for example, compare surviving swords dated before Qin dynasty to the blade work of caucasus mountian region, its not hard to find lot of similarity.

      i am a chinese, and i have decent traveling experience in or out of china. for my own understanding, chinese or Han chinese are not an ethnic group. its more like different ethnic people lived, mixed,and most important shared same culture together. today most of the chinese had lost their ancesteral apperence due to mixed marrage, but their accent still remains. even though the accent is not a very reliable way to indentify someone's ancesteral background. but it still leave us some tracks to study. oh god, the different accents in china are something that really gets on my nerves. there are several times that i went across the street to buy a cook, and i could't understand what the hack they were talking about.

      btw, here are some of my own experience that might help you in your research:

      during the time i was working in shandong, i had noticed the shape of local people's skull are pretty much similar to the typical hindo-europeans. my father, who was orginally from shandong, had this type of skull shape with deep eye scoket. however, i whose mother side had 1/2 manchurian triant, did not succeed most of my father's skull appearance.

      anyway, i consider myself Han chinese. My wife is an american, she is mixed with italian, french, german and romanian blood. i do not know what our marrage will affect the human history 3000 years later. but i am pretty sure we can make some handsome children.

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